These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Ships & Modules

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
12Next page
 

share your favourite Daredevil fits (please)

Author
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#1 - 2015-08-03 03:14:58 UTC
On the grounds that the Daredevil is about the only pirate frigate I have the skills to justify undocking in, I've been welping them at a splendid and satisfactory rate lately.

Currently, I'm toying with a 10mn AB/150mm Rail fit:

Highs: 2x 150mm Railgun II
Mids: 10mn AB, Web, Long Point.
Lows: DC, Ancillary Armour Repper, 2x MAPC II.
Rigs: 2x Transverse Bulkhead II, 1x Polycarbon Engine Housing II.

So, any advice on other fits? I've tried to fit it like a blaster Comet, with moderate success.
Any advice on piloting tricks?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze

This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura

Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-08-03 03:28:35 UTC
You have railguns to hit kiters.
You hsve super sick bonused webs.

You dont need oversized Ab. Its gimping your fit.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#3 - 2015-08-03 03:41:34 UTC
thank you for that detailed analysis and splendiferous fit you've shared......

Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze

This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura

Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#4 - 2015-08-03 08:24:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Syrias Bizniz
You have 90% webs. Their strength is that even ships running an mwd will need 2 webs on you in order to be faster than you, if you use a 1mn ab. No need to go 10mn here, allthough i'm certain it has all the gtfo anyone could ask for.
However, you need 2 mapc to fit it. These 2 lowslots could be magstabs, tank, or a combination, boosting your combatcapability.
Also, your caplife is horrible.

Keep going rail ab, but with a 1mn.
Blaster DDs can be outwitted pretty well by anyone who checks killboards.

Also: you need the webbonus at level 5, not 4, or scramkiters like a dual web dramiel will range control you.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-08-03 08:49:29 UTC
Daredevil screams for a little pimp. Faction AB, and web... add in pills, links and some low grades and your golden.

No Worries

Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-08-03 09:30:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
why you hulltanking with armour repper? i prefer blasters on the daredevil and rails on the dramiel

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#7 - 2015-08-03 09:30:45 UTC
oh and don't forget the tech 2 target range rig, or the first sensordamp frig brings shame to your killboard
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#8 - 2015-08-03 11:03:20 UTC
sweet, thanks guys!

ChromeStriker wrote:
Daredevil screams for a little pimp. Faction AB, and web... add in pills, links and some low grades and your golden.


heh, i splurged on a couple of faction webs. considering a nice AB once i welp a few more.

Lan Wang wrote:
why you hulltanking with armour repper?


coz i looked around on zkill and it kinda seems popular?

Lan Wang wrote:
i prefer blasters on the daredevil and rails on the dramiel


not sure if trolling or typo......

Syrias Bizniz wrote:
oh and don't forget the tech 2 target range rig, or the first sensordamp frig brings shame to your killboard


nice tip, thanks.

Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze

This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura

Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#9 - 2015-08-03 11:26:42 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:

Lan Wang wrote:
why you hulltanking with armour repper?


coz i looked around on zkill and it kinda seems popular?



Ever considered that they might end up getting killed so often and thus seem popular, because they are subpar?
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-08-03 11:30:18 UTC
you can get a daredevil up to near 500dps with blasters, it makes me moist Lol

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#11 - 2015-08-03 11:35:16 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
you can get a daredevil up to near 500dps with blasters, it makes me moist Lol



You can also put a heated thermal hardener in any brawlership and go toe to toe with the dd, and most likely beat it. Because blaster Dds really are that predictable.
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-08-03 11:41:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
yeah they are not the best ship tbh for the cost, they will die to dual web harpies easily, because as you say they are mostly predictable

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Switch Savage
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2015-08-03 11:59:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Switch Savage
Lan Wang wrote:
why you hulltanking with armour repper? i prefer blasters on the daredevil and rails on the dramiel


Do you even do frigate PvP? Hull tanking with an armor repper currently rules top of the meta for nearly all Gallente frigate/dessy fits.

To the OP i am guessing you are quite new to PvP. I would suggest you start with a rail Incursus then move onto a rail Comet before you start flying the Daredevil. Reason being you need a very solid idea of the frigate meta before taking a daredevil out for a joy ride.

Here is your bog standard rail comet. Make sure you carry Spike and Jav ammo. If you get caught by a 20km MWD kiter load spike and traversal match to easily drive them off field. Rest of the time just scram kite with anti matter. Once you get a good feel for this you will feel comfortable in taking a rail daredevil out knowing what it can and cannot kill.

[Federation Navy Comet, Rail Comet]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste

1MN Afterburner II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Transverse Bulkhead II
Small Transverse Bulkhead II
Small Transverse Bulkhead II

Hobgoblin II x3
Acolyte II x3
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2015-08-03 12:07:46 UTC
Switch Savage wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
why you hulltanking with armour repper? i prefer blasters on the daredevil and rails on the dramiel


Do you even do frigate PvP? Hull tanking with an armor repper currently rules top of the meta for nearly all Gallente frigate/dessy fits.


i do sometimes but only when i holiday in lowsec which is not too often, and to be honest ive never seen it before

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Switch Savage
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-08-03 12:16:05 UTC
You can run the daredevil in much the same way as a rail comet. A lot of the daredevils you will see in low sec will be faction AB/Web with links and a long point. This lets them kite well outside of scram range at the edge of web range and leave if they fight is going south.

Imo blaster daredevils are a bit meh for the cost but do allow you to catch Garmurs and the like.
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#16 - 2015-08-03 19:00:22 UTC
Nothings foolproof but this has served me well inside novice plexes to two firetails, and a similar only active fit killed me three T1 frigates. Then a tristan and condor ate it.

High
x2 Light Ion Blaster II

Mid
Scram
Dual web

Low
Damage control
400mm tungstun rolled plates
Micro auxillary power core II
Small ancillary armor repairer

Rig
explosive pump
auxiliary nano pump
Capacitor control circuit


Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?

Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#17 - 2015-08-04 01:11:34 UTC
Switch Savage wrote:
To the OP i am guessing you are quite new to PvP. I would suggest you start with a rail Incursus then move onto a rail Comet before you start flying the Daredevil. Reason being you need a very solid idea of the frigate meta before taking a daredevil out for a joy ride...


Actually, I've done a fair bit of frigate PvP. I got recruited into RvB a week or so after I started playing and proceeded to leave a trail of my wrecked Atrons, Maulus and Merlins like breadcrumbs from Otela to Liekuri.

Granted, I've not had a large amount of solo experience and I'm usually at the helm of a Kitsune in a gang.

Switch Savage wrote:
Here is your bog standard rail comet. Make sure you carry Spike and Jav ammo. If you get caught by a 20km MWD kiter load spike and traversal match to easily drive them off field. Rest of the time just scram kite with anti matter. Once you get a good feel for this you will feel comfortable in taking a rail daredevil out knowing what it can and cannot kill.


Ooh, thanks. I like that Comet fit!

I usually run blaster comets, but as has been noted, blaster boats are so, so predictable. My skillqueue ticked off a bunch of level Vs in Engineering and Navigation recently which has done wonders for fitting.

Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze

This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura

Damnskippy
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2015-08-04 01:55:22 UTC
I know blaster Devils are predictable but I've been digging this fit lately.
[Daredevil, Rename Yo Vaga]

Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Internal Force Field Array I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
1MN Afterburner II
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[Empty High slot]
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

Small Transverse Bulkhead II
Small Transverse Bulkhead II
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Null S x642
Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S x840
Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S x1001
Nanite Repair Paste x54

450 ish dps with just a cheap damage implant.

But as a previous poster said, once they see you coming it's pretty easy to tank your damage and mitigate the sole advantage that fit has.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#19 - 2015-08-05 01:06:26 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
thank you for that detailed analysis and splendiferous fit you've shared......


She's right - an AB is completely pointless on this ship, it has 90% webs and is among the fastest handful of frigates in EVE. It **NEEDS** a MWD, and blasters are the smartest weapon system considering once you get within web range, you have absolute and complete control over your opponent's range.

I will never understand the people who fit an AB and no MWD onto a frigate. Not complaining though, they pose 0 threat and are easy kills.
Iyokus Patrouette
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2015-08-05 01:46:52 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
thank you for that detailed analysis and splendiferous fit you've shared......


She's right - an AB is completely pointless on this ship, it has 90% webs and is among the fastest handful of frigates in EVE. It **NEEDS** a MWD, and blasters are the smartest weapon system considering once you get within web range, you have absolute and complete control over your opponent's range.

I will never understand the people who fit an AB and no MWD onto a frigate. Not complaining though, they pose 0 threat and are easy kills.


I use a 1mn Afterburner, hull tanked Daredevil with a small ancillary armour repper (for just that little extra buffer). I use it as super tackle against anything using medium guns and up.

It's tiny signature radius, coupled with absolute zero speed loss (no armour plates) and amazing webs makes it a nightmare for a larger hull to deal with,

Sure another frigate will probably ruin it's day, but i'm not chasing 5mil frigate killmails. I'm chasing the elusive solo Proteus Killmail.

---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----

12Next page