Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Simple idea. Allow the existing moon minerals to deplete. Replace moon mining with rare mining anomalies that have a small chance of spawning each time a regular mining anomaly is depleted. These can only be mined with the new drilling platform. Make the radius of the spawn such that it's only feasible to anchor one or a small number of platforms to do the mining. The composition of the spawn should include all material types in proportions that closely mirror what is required for T2 production.

These should be big. It should take weeks to deplete them with the number of drilling platforms that are practical to anchor within range of them. If one spawns in your sov space, it's the kind of thing that you'd want to try to keep secret from your neighbors, and anyone else who might try to swoop in and mine it for themselves.

Making it a rare spawn means that the more you mine in your space, the more chances you have to get one.

This wouldn't affect price. It's not about how much spawns. That is something that CCP could control. It's about where it spawns, and changing it from a static resource to a dynamic resource, randomly distributed based on activity.

Well, mostly because of :math:. It's not like you'd have "no idea whatsoever" where it's going to spawn. It's going to have a small chance of spawning in upgraded space where people are mining. CCP could easily adjust the spawn rate if they start to see a glut or scarcity.

What's your concern, exactly, that people who are actively mining in their space are going to decline an enormous windfall if it falls into their lap?

Maybe you should have taken a little time to think that through before posting.

It's t rivial to scan down a mining anom, if you don't know how they work. The hauling involved would be no different from what it is today, you'd just be hauling from a drilling platform at an anom instead of from a moon miner at a POS. The risk of destruction in transport might change some given that they wouldn't be quite as monopolized by major powers as they are today, but that could easily be compensated for through the spawn rate.

The only thing that changes is where they spawn, and why. They would remain a major conflict driver, but they would stop being a static, inexhaustible resource that is easy for a major power to monopolize. As these resources shift around, it'd provide dynamic opportunities for shifting conflicts to develop over them, and it would reward active use of space.

Do you think you can discuss an idea without resorting to childish insults? If not, it's cool. I can ignore them.

You do not have to scan anomalies. If you do not know this, you really should not be commenting.

More assets in space to mine and transport these materials is a GOOD thing. That's more opportunity for interdiction operations. That's more opportunity for others to have fun and profit raiding these things.

And making it so that they spawn more often in more densely populated areas (areas where there is higher use), is problematic, but if you want to earn "your fair share" you just have to use some other space.

It really undercuts the "own a bunch of moons, but no space" type empires, which I think is a good thing. Although as far as I can tell, the OP probably belongs to one of the few groups who still fall into this category.

What I could see is this

The mining platforms could be upgraded where they spawn these anomalies.
the different sizes would spawn coresponding anomalies by size.

The other option is to making PI and Moongoo purely extraction based. Allow the improvement and upgrading of said items in stations/new structure that relates to it.
Both systems need a major rework which could go any of a billion ways. After proposing a few ideas in it, I now feel that pure and simple extraction of goods from the material source is best. Leave development/refining to structures in space.

This would allow say an SOV holder to have a mineral Drilling Platform and one for Moongoo and one for PI, or the player could have his own PI platform

This is not an ISK faucet. It does not add ISK into the game.

Additionally, the OP's idea does not add any new materials to the game. It simply changes the way that moon materials enter the game. Rather than having them enter through static moons, they enter the game through dynamic anomalies.

You do have to scan for anomalies, while they show up on your screen many of them require scanning to lock their position so they can be warped to, at least they do in high and low sec.

But setting that aside if these mining anomalies are static then the OP idea changes nothing, all it does is move resources from fixed position moons to fixed position anomalies. To use you analogy we have this, instead of securing moons instead of space, they would be securing anomalies instead of space. I see no real difference outside of the additional assets and player time needed to hold these and that leads us right back to it will cost more ISK to buy anything and everything that uses these T2 resources.

I am fully aware that more assets in space is a good thing from one point of view. However you missed the point, those additional assets in space and the inevitable loses that will come from it add to the EXPENSE of procuring these T2 resources and that will lead to an increase in costs associated with all items that use thoseT2 resources. Tough you say that is how it should be, and we will have to agree to disagree on that. Higher costs for T2 items just widens the gap between new players and veterans even further than it is now and all by itself that would be a good reason not to go with the OP idea.

And please, take your "think of the newbies" argument and flush it. I'm betting with this change that T2 ships and modules would go up by no more than 5-10% max. The barrier to newbies is the skills to fly T2 ships, not the ISK. By the time they have the skills, they'll have the ISK.[/quote]
Then you play in a different EvE than I do, because in my EvE many new players can easily acquire skills for a T2 ship before they can the ISK required to buyu and properly fit one.