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I have no idea what im doin

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Lea Mala
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-07-27 18:02:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Lea Mala
ok so 30 day 1.8 mil SP and im here to ask to a question,what should I chose for lvl 4 missions ?I want to know what skillz to start traning and if yes what to buy a Rattle Snake or a Vindicator? and if u decide to waste ur time for me then may I ask for Vindicator fit also?thank u
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2015-07-27 18:11:02 UTC
Can you? Possibly
Should you? No

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Lea Mala
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-07-27 18:13:26 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Can you? Possibly
Should you? No

il need to edit,wait
Perihelion Olenard
#4 - 2015-07-27 18:20:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Perihelion Olenard
You won't be able to use any battleship effectively with that low of skillpoints. I have nearly double that much in armor skills alone. Gallente battleship V by itself is 2 million skillpoints, just to put things into perspective.
Lea Mala
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-07-27 18:33:36 UTC
it takes me only 5 days to train for the vindi or rattle snake,I dont need lvl 5 in everything tyo get started with lvl 4 missions do I?
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-07-27 18:34:07 UTC
level 5 skills is not a good way to measure perspective.

However what has been said is still correct, 1.8mil sp will mean you can barely fly a battleship at even level 3 with t1 tank, guns and supports.

Which means boom boom very quickly
Perihelion Olenard
#7 - 2015-07-27 18:37:22 UTC
Navigation, capacitor, and gunnery/drone skills are important as well.
Lea Mala
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-07-27 18:37:23 UTC
I just want to know how to start my skill tranning
Lea Mala
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-07-27 18:40:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Lea Mala
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
level 5 skills is not a good way to measure perspective.

However what has been said is still correct, 1.8mil sp will mean you can barely fly a battleship at even level 3 with t1 tank, guns and supports.

Which means boom boom very quickly

Damage Control II
Signal Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Large Micro Jump Drive
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Nova Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Nova Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Nova Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Nova Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Large Drone Scope Chip I
Large Drone Control Range Augmentor I

Warrior II x5
Bouncer II x5
Garde II x5
Warden II x5


this is one of the fits I was recomended to use for the rattlesnake
Techsupport 101
Subsidy H.R.S.
Xagenic Freymvork
#10 - 2015-07-27 18:51:15 UTC
Get a passive tanked drake. Its cheap, not that skill intensive and works well enough for a young pilot like yourself.


If you want a place to mission with others and get help join my corp. We are recruiting at the moment and specialize in helping out new players learn this complex game.

Hit me up in game.
Chiang LapShek
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-07-27 18:51:49 UTC
I second the passive tanked Drake idea.
Lea Mala
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-07-27 18:56:31 UTC
Techsupport 101 wrote:
Get a passive tanked drake. Its cheap, not that skill intensive and works well enough for a young pilot like yourself.


If you want a place to mission with others and get help join my corp. We are recruiting at the moment and specialize in helping out new players learn this complex game.

Hit me up in game.

thanks u very much but all if ur are war dect I cant afford to lose my Noctis,workin as a salvager until I get my skillz ready for lvl 4 mission
Perihelion Olenard
#13 - 2015-07-27 19:27:43 UTC
The drake would be a better place to start with instead of a pirate battleship. I used it myself for quite some time on my first character after they were released.
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#14 - 2015-07-27 19:32:14 UTC
How are your standings? You should know that you need to be at 5.0 or the level 4 agents wont even talk to you. if you did the tutorial missions you should have access to level 2 combat missions. You should go do those in a crusier/battlercruser:

1) to build your standings
2) to gain actual mission running experience. make your mistakes while its cheap!
3) do it in the crusier/battlecrusier thats closset to what you want to fly. So ratllesnake? use a drake or vexor. If rail vindi? use a Moa or a Thorax depending if you plan to shield or armor tank. Blaster vindi in their face melting them with pure damage? get a vigilant.

heres 2 links if you don't already have them

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Vigilant
http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=HomePage


The easiest way to tell what style you prefer, stand off missiles? let the drones kill stuff while you watch? long range sniping? brawling at point blank range? well easiest way is to go try it. You can try every style in the lev missions with low skills and find out what you like.

Will gank for food

Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#15 - 2015-07-27 21:19:04 UTC
If you open the information sheet for any ship you are interested in you will find a mastery tab next to the requirements tab. To fly that ship properly you should have the certificates for mastery level 3. If you try to run level 4 missions with less you will need to warp out and repair and mistakes will cost you your ship.

Get comfortable - really comfortable - with level 3 missions first. Level 4 missions aren't very profitable if you are at high risk of losing your ship.

If you are interested in the Rattlesnake, I recommend that you look at the Gila. It will grow with you - start with level 2 missions and upgrade your fit as your skills advance - my Gila produces over 700 dps with 50K ehp and 350 dps passive regen - it runs level 4 missions comfortably.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#16 - 2015-07-27 21:33:50 UTC
I know the feeling and temptation but I lost my first battleship so quickly that I had to reconsider that idea. Just fly the Drake, she is very forgiving aand tanks a lot.

If you have trouble killing some NPC battlships, you need to clear the smaller ones first and when there is nothing else left, you need to get closer to that one.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

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Apoq Surrat
Zero-Point Solutions
DammFam
#17 - 2015-07-27 22:40:52 UTC
As far as simply training the right skills, decide what battleship you want, and look at its MASTERY skill list.

I recommend before you start level 4 missions, that you have Mastery 4 for the ship you are flying.

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Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#18 - 2015-07-27 22:56:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniela Doran
Just a month old and you're trying to fly a Vindi......... Forget It!

The rats in Lev 4's would just laugh at you while killing your 800mill Vindi within the second or third wave of a mission like Blockade.

The absolute best ship for a new pilot to train for is the Gila. Can do all level 4's with just the medium drones alone and would only take you about 3 months to train. If you need a skill list queue on what to train for then holla back.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2015-07-28 00:23:34 UTC
Until you get all gunnery, armor / shield and engineering skills at 4-5, I recommend you flying a regular t1 battleship: Apocalypse, Megathron, Tempest, or Raven.

The faction ships and Marauders will get you nowhere without very high support skills.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#20 - 2015-07-28 00:49:47 UTC
I'd suggest you look for a newbie friendly nullsec corp and make the short train into a Vexor Navy Issue.

Karmafleet, Pandemic Horde or EvE University, amongst others, would all be able to give you a huge helping hand.

Lea Mala wrote:
*snip*
what to buy a Rattle Snake or a Vindicator?
*snip*

buy whichever you think will make the better killmail. You will lose that expensive toy in very short order without the basic core skills to make it work.

Seriously, I have a 16m SP alt who is aiming at flying battleships. That alt will have another ~7 months training before undocking in anything other than a ratting VNI or an Epithal.

Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze

This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura

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