EVE General Discussion

Like really there kinda invulnerable to all EW, cap warfare etc due to them shooting even after being Jammed / sensor disrupted and aggressive drones automatically firing and being able to assign your drones to someone else, the only way to deal with them is the dumb way of destroying the ships. Now you can obviously still turn off the micro's / AB's and other modules with cap warfare and scrams but eh.

Like seriously within the past 2 days there has been 2 times were if something hadn't have been a drone boat I could have killed them all 1 where we had a Falcon, Rapier, Arazu and 2 damage ships against 6 drone boats with Sentries and we just couldn't engage because range control ships and ECM would have done us no good, and it was early in the morning so we couldn't call anyone else out

Then there was another one where there was a Gila running sites in a WH and we only had 2 pilots on-line because it was really late and again if it was a turret/missle ship we could have easily taken it out with a Arazu and a heavy DPS ship with a light tank. But no the only way of fighting them would have been to bring more tanky and higher DPS ships.

Now all the other weapon systems have there up's and downs Lasers don't require you to fill up your cargo hold with Ammo but require a fair bit of cap to shoot, Autocannon don't require cap but the Ammo is quite large, Hybrids require less cap than lasers but the ammo is of a reasonable size, missiles don't require cap and are not effected by tracking disruption but have flight times and can be counters by firewalls and are quite large usually.

Meanwhile drones are not effected by Cap warfare and are effectively invulrable to EW, tracking disruptors, ECM and webs because if you have enough ships to apply there effects to all there drones you might as well have just brought DPS ships and shot them to high hell. I know you have the risk of someone shooting your drones but a lot of these drone boats have increases the amount of HP on drones to the point to where it is much more effective to just shoot the ship.

Now I'm not saying they should be super vulnerable to webs / tracking disruption because it makes no sense for Web's and tracking disruption applied to the ship to be applied to the drones, but at the very least think your drone control range should be effected by damps and drones can should only be able to attack things within your sensor's range ECM should make you lose connection to your drones and drone mechanics would be changed so you automatically reconnect to your drones when there on grid, and your drones if there not sentries for obvious reasons should fly towards you if there disconnected and cannot regain connection.

My point is that there really unbalanced compared to all the other weapon systems.

Already tackled that as on most these drone boats there is a bonus to drone hitpoints which makes it more efficient to just destroy the ship and some will be able to hold more drones than they can deploy. Especially when it comes to sentries which have quite a bit of hitpoints at base never mind with 25% bonus from skills and 50 - 275% from ship roles / skill bonuses on the ship.

from this post my only recommendation is to buff drone boats

You Can ECM the drones.... or destroy them drone boats without drones are pretty useless..

Yes you can ECM drones but you would have to spread your ECM out over 5 drones per person which makes it not worth doing and again a Gila has a 500% bonus to drone hitpoint you are talking about taking out 4 mid tanked cruisers rather than 1 heavily tanked cruiser... That is what I would call stupidity.

and all the other decent drone boats have a 20% bonus to drone hitpoints per level and multiple flights of drones so that also makes it stupid to attack the drones, basically the only time it makes sense is when your in a frigate/destroyer and a battleship is sending out light drones.

You are what is wrong with this game. Unwilling to engage a target that isn't neuted, jammed and scrammed and some logi just in case while also outnumbering the target.

Oh and for what it's worth, recons are significantly more 'OP' than drones.

A Gila outnumbered you?
Sooo confused.

yes kill the drones unless you fighting a rattlesnake....

I said no such thing.
Thinking there's some conversational crossover going on here.

Different drone boats pose different problems for dealing with.
Sentry Ishtars scare me more than Gilas do to be honest. On a fleet level the drone swarm is a daunting thing, no doubt.
On a smaller scale they're still challenging, but not unbeatable.

Then why not just roll that into existing modules...