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Gessiel
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-07-21 06:32:01 UTC
Everyone wants sov, Looks like Fozziesov is Failing.
You want a carrier? Think major Fatigue. Fail
Oh you want to take a jump bridge? Fatigue. Another Jump Bridge...More fatigue.
Want good fights? Look at Dotlan...nothing. Fail.
You want to mine? Why? Nothing is being destroyed. Prices are plummeting.
You want to train for a super? Why? Fozziessov wants small gangs, not that big montrosity.
You want more members in your corp? Think again, people are dropping EVE http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

Major corps and alliances are dropping in numbers, they want PVP.
I implore CCP to bring that back. This fozziesov/fatigue/ship nerfs has turned too many away from the game.

Hi sec members will normally stay in hi sec, Null sec and low want good fights, well, any fights now.

Maybe the old system was bad, but what fun we had with 1000+ in a system with TIDI and lots of kills.

Now I can fly my ibis through almost any null sec area and not see any hostiles. Sad

I'm not a developer of games. I dont know the solution, but its obvious that this present situation is not working.

I do love this game. Been here a good many years and dont want it to die out.

my 2 cents
Lorce
Doomheim
#2 - 2015-07-21 06:39:18 UTC
Thank you for this worthless shitpost. I can haz ur stuff?
Jack Morrison
Team Liquid crp.
#3 - 2015-07-21 06:40:40 UTC
IB4L, also:
-yeah the jump timer / range nerf might have been a too much
-maybe the current major corporations and alliances need to break apart so something new can emerge

Looking for a group to pew with ? Have a chat with me.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#4 - 2015-07-21 06:47:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
Gessiel wrote:
Think again, people are dropping EVE http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

um wut? zoom out a bit, like to a month. Now don't just focus on the peak-peak, but on the whole. Looks up a little. At least a big stretch to say "EVE is Dying™". Yawn much?

Came expecting a Viagra joke, left disappoint'E.D.
Don't want your stuff...

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Falken Falcon
#5 - 2015-07-21 06:50:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Falken Falcon
Gessiel wrote:
Everyone wants sov, Looks like Fozziesov is Failing.
Want good fights? Look at Dotlan...nothing. Fail.
Now I can fly my ibis through almost any null sec area and not see any hostiles. Sad
This is part reason why fozziesov is here and the null pve changes. To remove the emptyness of null.
Gessiel wrote:

You want a carrier? Think major Fatigue. Fail
Oh you want to take a jump bridge? Fatigue. Another Jump Bridge...More fatigue.
That is so you can't hotdrop people across the cluster. Supports more localized fights, annoying? Yes, but even with minor planning you can easily keep the fatique in check.

Gessiel wrote:

You want to mine? Why? Nothing is being destroyed. Prices are plummeting.
You want to train for a super? Why? Fozziessov wants small gangs, not that big montrosity.
"Nothing is being destroyed" I'll just put that on the rant pile. And it's not the fozziesovthat is going to **** with supers, it's the upcoming super nerf.
Gessiel wrote:

You want more members in your corp? Think again, people are dropping EVE http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

Major corps and alliances are dropping in numbers, they want PVP.
I implore CCP to bring that back. This fozziesov/fatigue/ship nerfs has turned too many away from the game.

Hi sec members will normally stay in hi sec, Null sec and low want good fights, well, any fights now.

Maybe the old system was bad, but what fun we had with 1000+ in a system with TIDI and lots of kills.


I'm not a developer of games. I dont know the solution, but its obvious that this present situation is not working.

I do love this game. Been here a good many years and dont want it to die out.

my 2 cents
Maybe you should leave highsec, ib4l

Edit: The 1000+ fights are not fun, the tidi and the lag is terribad. I once went for walk and a shower (45mins +-10mins), during that time my ship had done absolutely nothing. Guns were still flashing red and i just starting to turn towards my fleet.

Aye, Sea Turtles
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#6 - 2015-07-21 06:51:43 UTC
Gessiel wrote:
Everyone wants sov, Looks like Fozziesov is Failing.
You want a carrier? Think major Fatigue. Fail
Oh you want to take a jump bridge? Fatigue. Another Jump Bridge...More fatigue.
Want good fights? Look at Dotlan...nothing. Fail.
You want to mine? Why? Nothing is being destroyed. Prices are plummeting.
You want to train for a super? Why? Fozziessov wants small gangs, not that big montrosity.
You want more members in your corp? Think again, people are dropping EVE http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

Major corps and alliances are dropping in numbers, they want PVP.
I implore CCP to bring that back. This fozziesov/fatigue/ship nerfs has turned too many away from the game.

Hi sec members will normally stay in hi sec, Null sec and low want good fights, well, any fights now.

Maybe the old system was bad, but what fun we had with 1000+ in a system with TIDI and lots of kills.

Now I can fly my ibis through almost any null sec area and not see any hostiles. Sad

I'm not a developer of games. I dont know the solution, but its obvious that this present situation is not working.

I do love this game. Been here a good many years and dont want it to die out.

my 2 cents



No it wasn't fun. It was fun for hi-sec people to read about, maybe. But those 1000+ fights happened like twice a year and then eff all happened in between.

Whereas now there are mutiple seperate conflicts burning on the map.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Michael Ruckert
Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando
#7 - 2015-07-21 06:59:13 UTC
ISD Drifiter death ray incoming on OP rant post.

"No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#8 - 2015-07-21 07:02:10 UTC
Malcanis wrote:


No it wasn't fun. It was fun for hi-sec people to read about, maybe. But those 1000+ fights happened like twice a year and then eff all happened in between.

Whereas now there are mutiple seperate conflicts burning on the map.

To be fair, the map of 'ships destroyed in the last 24h' does look pretty deserted in null.
I see a big fight in Aunsou (300+ destroyed), a couple of High>Low choke systems with high counts and a bit of a fight in Pavanakka.

Number of Null systems obviously is greater, but the map doesn't exactly look like Null is on fire with destruction atm. There may be lots of skirmishes, but it looks like most are ending in draws.
Tess2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-07-21 07:06:08 UTC
I love hotdrops, its an EVE mechanic.
I loved the big fleets, whether twice a year or less.
It made your blood boil, padded kms. Where is that now?

Dont slam the obvious.
Melissa Redoran
#10 - 2015-07-21 07:07:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Melissa Redoran
Gessiel wrote:

I do love this game. Been here a good many years and dont want it to die out.



*EDIT*
At least people I perceive ingame are having loads of fun / are more active and destroying / loosing more than bevore.
Collapse in playercount ??? Please take a closer look at the eve offline numbers you linked yourself !!!

Sry to say but it seems you are too late for the "eve is dying" train - there was an instant shift in ranting that you must have missed

Please whine about too expensive shipcosts that makes it impossible for "us all" to PVP or demand instant gradification as well. Also there is our beloved: I´m not able to fly safe in highsec - CCP fix this. This seems state of the art now.
Avvy
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-07-21 07:28:52 UTC
Jack Morrison wrote:

-maybe the current major corporations and alliances need to break apart so something new can emerge




Not sure if that would happen.

PLEX to extend game time, so if they've set it up so that they can earn good isk, can't see them wanting to risk losing it.
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2015-07-21 07:31:06 UTC
"fun with tidi"

Is that a legal sentence?
Tiberius Heth
Doomheim
#13 - 2015-07-21 07:33:19 UTC
Has anyone said "lol" yet? No? Let me be the first.

Hey OP! LOL
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#14 - 2015-07-21 08:31:46 UTC
Rowells wrote:
"fun with tidi"

Is that a legal sentence?


That's a sentence fragment.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#15 - 2015-07-21 08:37:10 UTC
For the love of God. Just drop all SOV mechanics and let the players work it out!

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#16 - 2015-07-21 11:47:42 UTC
Not sure about that. The Russians seem to be having a great old time bubble camping their systems. Either that or I was the only one they killed a few days ago, which is unlikely.

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?
Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2015-07-21 12:04:25 UTC
Pfr has had an uptick in good fights. Last Saturday we averaged about 20 small gangs 10-20 people through our main staging, not to mention the sov fights plus what was going on in our other systems. We also had several roams that ended in Good fights.

So maybe you just live in ****** space? Or maybe you need to move. I hear dreddit is recruiting.

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three
Jenshae Chiroptera
#18 - 2015-07-21 12:18:07 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Gessiel wrote:
Think again, people are dropping EVE http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

um wut? zoom out a bit, like to a month.
5 years = 48K period average.
1 year = 37K period average
6 months = 33K period average
3 months = 25K period average
1 month = 20K period average

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Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#19 - 2015-07-21 13:08:26 UTC
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