Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I think you meant to post this is in the terrible idea thread 0/10

You know what makes eve different from other games? A single server.

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Confuscious say, Its not the server that is single, simply your perception of it.
Srsly, ask the Chinese.

Before splintering off and creating a whole other server, I think a much brighter idea would be to find a way (technical/political) to bring the two (existing) servers together. Simply bringing them together and allowing interaction would create a whole new dimension and with it a massive power shift/struggle

This is a false assertion. Unless you can prove this is actually true, there is no point engaging with the rest of your argument.

I don't agree with it either, as explained in my OP. The point of the fresh start is to prove that nothing significance would change.

I am not making an argument of any kind. I have proposed an idea that would illustrate the inherent strength of the diminishing returns skill system we have now, and as a handy side effect would provide a place for a new regime. The inspiration was an assertion made by someone else, one I don't agree with.

However, a fresh start server could draw in new players by breaking that perception, and given time to mature into all areas of play and then integrated into the main server it could benefit the game as a whole by providing a shake up to the status quo.

And after 5 years? After 5 years, these new players still only have SP worth 5 years. Players from the other world still have SP worth 15 years. In this other world, they'd still get farmed by players with more experience as SP do not matter. And if this other world gets opened or integrated into the real New Eden, everything someone might have build up on that server will get roflstomped into the ground. Not to mention that this is kind of impossible in the first place: You cannot integrate 2 sov holders into 1 game.

Also, all these players complaining about the "gap" seem to forget that these "gaps" exist everywhere around them. Their job in their comfortable position in the company? Imagine how a trainee or apprentice feels when they see your status. Your kids in that fancy school or private college? Imagine the perspective of someone who does not have that kind of money or influence to get their children this kind of treatment. And before someone thinks about to give me the "this is a game" crap, EVE is firstly not just a game and secondly set up in a dark, unforgiving, harsh, brutal, punishing, exploitive, relentless universe of war, treachery, combat, fight for survival. All the older players have earned their place in this environment over time and by how or with whom they play. If the new players cannot stomach this because Angry Bird is such a better place, they should not think about trying EVE in the first place.

i managed, the new lords ceo managed, newbies manage every day to get by, get stuck in and have fun.

can we please stop with this crap already, you have been here long enough to know differently

Diminishing returns would prevent the effect you describe. I suggested the initial integration be done via wormholes so that you could not simply mobilize your entire supercap armada and roll the newer systems, you would have to set up production and build it.

It would simply provide a new place for the game to grow and develop a new meta, and then cause further conflict and chaos when the two were put in reach of each other.

These would be new systems, not to be integrated directly in such a way as to cause dual ownership or anything.

The current system where most of the blue doughnut never fights because it hurts their ISK would just be repeated and as far as the SP situation from day one new players would be joining the server and those that started eariler would be ahead SP wise and the gap would widen over time to be exactly as is.

zero for this idea