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Been gone for 6+ months, missions?

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Dyaven
#1 - 2011-12-31 08:30:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Dyaven
I'm looking to jump back into level 4 missions to get myself a steady income going. I'm starting clean, zero assets, 1.3b in my wallet. What should I invest in for Gallente missions nowadays?

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Dyaven
OfBalance
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-12-31 09:05:26 UTC  |  Edited by: OfBalance
The dominix is better than ever as of the recent hybrid buff and a reasonable fit is well within your budget.

Now sit back and listen to the hoards who will demand you train those T2 large ACs for a mach. Lol (It is worth the train, but i'd suggest you make a little coin first. Don't fly what you can't afford to loose and all that.)
Dyaven
#3 - 2011-12-31 09:07:33 UTC
Haha, if you couldn't tell from my skills I was actually training for a Mach before I left... it's not exactly within my price range atm, with 1.3b in my wallet I'd probably be spending every penny I have on one. All I'm missing is the actual Large Autocannon Specialization skill.
OfBalance
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-12-31 09:09:59 UTC
Ah, you were a convert already!
Dyaven
#5 - 2011-12-31 09:24:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Dyaven
I've honestly always preferred gun boats to the Dominix, honestly... something about the space potato just doesn't suit me. Is the Kronos respectable at all nowadays? Though I suppose the difference in price between the Kronos and Machariel is ~100m, I might as well go for the Mach...
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#6 - 2011-12-31 13:23:23 UTC
There are no missions available to you after 6 months, all of the offers would have expired

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Goose99
#7 - 2011-12-31 16:19:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Goose99
OfBalance wrote:
The dominix is better than ever as of the recent hybrid buff and a reasonable fit is well within your budget.

Now sit back and listen to the hoards who will demand you train those T2 large ACs for a mach. Lol (It is worth the train, but i'd suggest you make a little coin first. Don't fly what you can't afford to loose and all that.)


He already has large projectile lvl 5. Minmatar BS is lvl4, but that's fine, 5% less of Mach is still far superior to domi. One bil for the Mach, t2 fit it. At domi speed, it'll take a long time to make enough for much of anything.
Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate
#8 - 2011-12-31 17:03:08 UTC
Goose99 wrote:
OfBalance wrote:
The dominix is better than ever as of the recent hybrid buff and a reasonable fit is well within your budget.

Now sit back and listen to the hoards who will demand you train those T2 large ACs for a mach. Lol (It is worth the train, but i'd suggest you make a little coin first. Don't fly what you can't afford to loose and all that.)


He already has large projectile lvl 5. Minmatar BS is lvl4, but that's fine, 5% less of Mach is still far superior to domi. One bil for the Mach, t2 fit it. At domi speed, it'll take a long time to make enough for much of anything.

Domi easily spits out 1k+ DPS now, it's not nearly as bad as you seem to think it is.
Goose99
#9 - 2011-12-31 18:49:27 UTC
Cambarus wrote:
Goose99 wrote:
OfBalance wrote:
The dominix is better than ever as of the recent hybrid buff and a reasonable fit is well within your budget.

Now sit back and listen to the hoards who will demand you train those T2 large ACs for a mach. Lol (It is worth the train, but i'd suggest you make a little coin first. Don't fly what you can't afford to loose and all that.)


He already has large projectile lvl 5. Minmatar BS is lvl4, but that's fine, 5% less of Mach is still far superior to domi. One bil for the Mach, t2 fit it. At domi speed, it'll take a long time to make enough for much of anything.

Domi easily spits out 1k+ DPS now, it's not nearly as bad as you seem to think it is.


You mean +10% of very little dps and +5% of very little tracking? You have guns that don't track and slowboating heavies for paper dps, compared to 1200 out of NM or Mach. Real dps out of domi is around 500, out of sentries, with omnis and sentry dmg rig.
Dyaven
#10 - 2011-12-31 19:04:57 UTC
So I could probably afford to T2 fit a Mach. Would it be worth it? If so, what fitting would you suggest for Gallente missions?
Goose99
#11 - 2011-12-31 19:10:20 UTC
Dyaven wrote:
So I could probably afford to T2 fit a Mach. Would it be worth it? If so, what fitting would you suggest for Gallente missions?


Rack of 800mms, 3-4 gyros, 3 tes, x-large shield booster, 3 hardners, ab. Speed tank, permaburn ab, pulse booster.
Dyaven
#12 - 2011-12-31 19:20:48 UTC
Hrm, that doesn't seem to fit. I'm 6% CPU short, fitting skills are maxed.


[Machariel, Machariel]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

X-Large Shield Booster II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
100MN Afterburner II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
[empty high slot]

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5
Goose99
#13 - 2011-12-31 19:47:23 UTC
Dyaven wrote:
Hrm, that doesn't seem to fit. I'm 6% CPU short, fitting skills are maxed.


[Machariel, Machariel]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

X-Large Shield Booster II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
100MN Afterburner II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
[empty high slot]

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5


Plugged that into eft, seems like 1% short, not 6. My carebear boat had a deadspace booster, and it fits even with a drone link in the 8th high. X-large boosters should be cheap, look into that. Or downgrade to large/meta4 x-large.
Dyaven
#14 - 2011-12-31 19:50:33 UTC
Are you sure you don't have a 5% CPU implant in your EFT character? Switching to all level V skills on my EFT still shows 6% short. A Caldari Navy booster would fit but it's a bit expensive. A Gist C-Type would be amazing if it weren't almost as expensive as the ship itself. :P
Varnoka
Cajun Consolidated
#15 - 2011-12-31 20:26:02 UTC
Try this one out instead. Been awhile since I checked the booster price so not sure if in your range or not. BTW Machs only cost about 800-850 mill right now if ya look around :)

[Machariel, Machariel]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Pithum B-Type Medium Shield Booster
Heat Dissipation Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
100MN Afterburner II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
[empty high slot]

Large Core Defence Operational Solidifier I
Large Core Defence Operational Solidifier I
Large Core Defence Operational Solidifier I


Hammerhead II x5
Dyaven
#16 - 2011-12-31 20:35:21 UTC
Ack, that fit looks awesome but the booster is way out of my price range. Even the cheapest deadspace medium booster (Gistum C-Type) is about three times as much as I could spend on the one module. x.x
Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate
#17 - 2011-12-31 20:45:06 UTC
Goose99 wrote:
Cambarus wrote:
Goose99 wrote:
OfBalance wrote:
The dominix is better than ever as of the recent hybrid buff and a reasonable fit is well within your budget.

Now sit back and listen to the hoards who will demand you train those T2 large ACs for a mach. Lol (It is worth the train, but i'd suggest you make a little coin first. Don't fly what you can't afford to loose and all that.)


He already has large projectile lvl 5. Minmatar BS is lvl4, but that's fine, 5% less of Mach is still far superior to domi. One bil for the Mach, t2 fit it. At domi speed, it'll take a long time to make enough for much of anything.

Domi easily spits out 1k+ DPS now, it's not nearly as bad as you seem to think it is.


You mean +10% of very little dps and +5% of very little tracking? You have guns that don't track and slowboating heavies for paper dps, compared to 1200 out of NM or Mach. Real dps out of domi is around 500, out of sentries, with omnis and sentry dmg rig.

Outside of 15km the domi ODs the macharial, and if you're having a hard time killing rats because of transversal you're either using 1400s or are absolutely terrible at missions. The domi is literally the best t1 mission ship in the game, and while the mach is definitely better (though even that's arguable depending on the mission) Back when I used to run lvl 4s I found the domi to be more or less on par with the nightmare in terms of race-specific ships (NM was slightly better mind you, but they were close, and the domi blew it out of the water for kin/therm missions).

Granted the mach is still better, but if you've only just barely got the isk for the ship and a t2 fit, you should probably stick to something cheaper for a while, and if you're only getting the performance of 500 applied DPS out of a domi, then you're terrible at running missions and should probably learn how to fly them before investing a bil or 2 into a mission ship.
Varnoka
Cajun Consolidated
#18 - 2011-12-31 21:01:55 UTC
Dyaven wrote:
Ack, that fit looks awesome but the booster is way out of my price range. Even the cheapest deadspace medium booster (Gistum C-Type) is about three times as much as I could spend on the one module. x.x


Well thats about the cheapest decent mission fit you're gonna find for a Mach. If it is outside your range, you could go for the Domi as has been suggested. I use my Domi every once in a while to change things up from my Rattler. Domi does fine regardless what some folks say here. Yes the Mach is faster on most missions, but it is expensive to fit right.

You asked about the Kronos earlier. I did some eft-fu and it seems it is still a decent ship. Best thing is you can fit it all T2 for around 900mill. With tracking comps it should be able to hit close orbiting BC/BS no problem. Drones take care of little stuff that get in close before you can pop them at range. I don't have the gunnery skills to fly one myself competently so can't give any first hand accounts of it.
Kusum Fawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2011-12-31 22:06:15 UTC
Kronos is a pretty good ship. I dunno if its the endgame ship that everyone seems to want but its a decent rail platform, and its not that expensive (relatively). if you do a cap boosted setup you have plenty of slots for mag stabs, tank and speed.

[Kronos, Internet spaceship]

425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Salvager I
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I

Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed

Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II

Large Hybrid Burst Aerator II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

The mix of meta 4 and t2 help for fitting, you can dead space or faction a lot of it to make it better but this is the baseline fit for missioning. something like 700 dps out and 750 dps tank (less vs exp)

Cap booster is there for tank, and or afterburner. everything else should be stable

not the 1300 out of the multi-billion Mach fittings out there, but meh? lower ammo costs, lower initial outlay, and you can grab some of those wrecks before the ninjas.

minimum -can hit cruisers at 15, bc at 10 and bs at 5,
maximum is around 60 km,
300 m/s to chase everything else (you can break angels orbits and run them down if you are having issues tracking them)

Ship is pretty easy to get used to, only problem is that it does need a little cap handling, but whith the boosters its not much of an issue. (worlds collide takes about 12 cap 800"s to do,)

im not sure on the time difference between Mach and Kronos for general missions.

Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.

Dyaven
#20 - 2011-12-31 22:31:46 UTC
I was toying around with the Kronos in EFT and was able to work out an almost cap stable (13 mins running everything but AB, stable without the Salvagers and Tractors running) fit with 847 DPS and 426 tanked against Serpentis, without Cap Boosters even.


[Kronos, Kronos]
Large Armor Repairer II
Damage Control II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

100MN Afterburner II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I
Salvager I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5