Intergalactic Summit

To be fair, James, I can't very well speak intelligently about what the Caldari don't know about the Gallente. I don't know it!

My personal reasoning:
Yanala's final act upon that day, prior to the destruction of the Shiigeru, was to offload all ordnance and power down both primary and secondary reactors within the titan, This ensured that the damage caused was far less severe than it could have been.
Her choice to delay firing her Oblivion weapon at the planetary surface, while repeatedly requesting confirmation of the order to fire, was also a calculated risk, and one that she unfortunately paid the price for in later days.

These acts were heroic, they were choices she made, that saved many lives, at risk of her own.

Schere, I say that she would, if Heth had been able to apply further leverage, have fired upon the planet due to a simple truth. It is far easier to choose death for yourself, or a number of faceless strangers, than it is to choose that fate or worse for your children, or grandchildren.

Do you doubt that, if he had thought it necessary, Heth would not have given her family over to the tender embrace of his Dragonaur allies? I would not wish that fate upon anyone.

I do not question her resolve or loyalty to the State and it's people, but I understand implicitly how painful it can be to know those you love have been hurt or worse.

Go on, Imperial, continue to tell me how I was raised - perhaps I wasn't paying attention, but I really don't remember seeing you there when I was in my creche.

Haajakin Kalen in Napaani. Just a little phrase that's been kicking around as the primary toast of the Caldari Military and government for centuries.

Could you please provide a link to support this statement.

I have publicly enquired about the wonder weapon if you have some actual facts please share them.

You speak with the passion of a Matari. What a cruel reality that the Caldari and Matari are not allies. Your hearts beat true as do ours.

And this is the still barking known liar Makoto, who lost her honor with extreme cowardice.
Your words have lost the value the moment you refused to stand for them ( https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=381560 )
Be gone. Shame on you.

Andreus, you know my opinion on Intaki is that they should be out of the war zone and have self-determination.

With respect, sir, it was easy for your people to move Capital since it was done by choice. You weren't bombarded from the air and space, or chased by a hostile fleet, but it's a seperate debate to establish who is to blame for what.

I am with Tuulinen when he says the greatest issue is the lack of empathy from the Federal leaders. I may not be Caldari by virtue of being Amarr having joined the Amarr Empire, but my father was a State citizen, a Civire. My ancestors came from Caldari Prime. Put simply, the soul of the Caldari people has a great void, an open wound, that cannot heal so long as Home does not belong to the Caldari people. I am no exception.

Even with my faith and living with my Mother's people, I still feel that void. It's a black hole, threatning to consume your soul, demanding to be filled. Some fill it with hatred, allowing the wound to open ever further until not even the destruction of the Federaion along with the return of home would satisfy it. Others try to push back, controlling the pain and torment and seeking a more peaceful, diplomatic approach, but still Home must be returned as the ultimate aim. Others, still, react to that insatiable black hole in different ways, their own ways, but the same fact remains. The Caldari people have been displaced, and regardless of who's to blame for what it in the conflict between the State and the Federation, the Caldari people can never be at peace until their soul is made whole again.

The Federation can never empathise with this fact for as long as they have never had their home taken from them. For all the talk of not needing their ancestral home, the Gallente cannot know how they'd feel until it's taken from them. They do not have that very same wound that every ethnic Caldari carries. However, they can atleast try to understand, to be aware of how deeply ingrained this need is, how serious the wound has become, how far it can potentially fester.

I pray for the Caldari people that home is returned so my my own yearning, passed on from my father, might be healed also, but I also carry the hope that it might be resolved peacefully in time. Neither side gains if home is left in ashes, and all that will be left should Home be destroyed by either side would be eternal tears of regret.

I would argue that the greatest issue is the lack of empathy from both sides.

Both sides are too busy justifying themselves and making demands to actually come to the table and try to understand one another.

That part is left to us.

How's that victory looking now? Military experts agree that the Federal Navy is now incapable of taking the State by force. The only recent engagement between our two forces led you to a victory that can only be described as pyrrhic in the extreme, and which led to you voluntarily surrendering much of the planet it was fought over. Face facts, Mr Striker, the State has won the battle for independence and it has achieved the stability it needs to exist without you and without your toxic ideals in the longer term. And many of the others that chafe under your yoke have seen us succeed without your "benevolent guidance".



History has shown that the Gallente people are highly susceptible to atrocity - both as a means of fomenting conflicts and as a means of ending them. Nonetheless, I was simply speaking of the idiocy of threatening to fire on Home when the Caldari reverence for the place is notorious. Threatening to fire on a planet we don't give a damn about would have been a much more plausible threat.



There is no conflict. The fact that I value the lives of my people doesn't affect the fact that they have placed me in the position to spend them if I believed the potential gain warranted it. In fact only a man who is willing to spend the lives of his men should ever be in a position of command - those who volunteer don't expect to be safe, they expect the risks that they take to mean something. As Capsuleers we make this decision every day - perhaps if you spend some time serving in a forward position you'll come to understand that a little better.

As for Gallente 'reasonableness' I'm very pleased that our RECENT dealings with your people have been much more so. Past treatment has been anything but - despite your belief in your morality the truth of your track record is plain to see in history.