EVE General Discussion

No need to pull the "think of the children" card. I am sure more complacent older players have exploded in ghost sites and to drifters than new players.

You don't need to study - Eve is suppose to be a dark and uncertain place. Just remember your tutorial lessons and do not fly what you cannot afford to lose. It's good advice, because sooner or later you will lose your ship whether it be to another player or to an NPC.

Making Eve so it cannot be "won" by simply reading about a site or mission on a web page is a good direction to take the game. Too many problems are caused by the ease of min/maxing and the trivialization of the PvE content because of its predictable nature.

+1.

Exactly my thoughts, on the NPC part.

Especially on Drifters. They're not more 'advanced;' none of them are. They are simply more OP and less generic in their stats. They behave otherwise exactly like the rest of them.

Some people like the predictable nature of NPCs, though. However, it'd go a long way if there was some chance involved in some stats.

I also found with Drifters that CCP really forced people into a single playstyle. Actively changing the stats doesn't make for more interesting playstyles, it simply cut them out of the picture until the only thing left was to evade those mechanics completely.


Half of my post probably was unrelated to what you were trying to say, but I had to say it somewhere.

Ah but they are more advanced. They are remembering your actions from previous events, communicating with each other, and are being much more intelligent overall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hC4I-9UxBo

Sure the doomsday weapon is a little extreme, but the Drifters have been evolving as players figure them out. Players are regularly killing them, and certainly farming their little brothers for entosis link components. This game needs a whole range of NPCs, including ones that players have to run away from on occasion. I'm sorry, but this isn't WoW where you always get to be the victorious hero and always get to defeat each and every NPC.

People say this yet when the NPCs do something unpredictable they come here to the forums and complain like this thread. But in general I agree, missions should be less predictable, more subject to outside influence, encourage players to group and occasionally be unbeatable. Things that minimize susceptibility to farming and increase player engagment.


How are they forcing a playstyle? If you don't want to play hide-and-seek with the Drifters you don't have to - you can continue farming L4 missions like players have since time immemorial. How does it diminish the game to offer a new type of NPCs with a new type of less predictable game play to players? I am sure some players love the challenge of an evolving and coordinated NPC faction to battle, especially ones tied to tightly to the lore of the game.

i came back after 6 months, i was flying in a 400m scanning anomaly navy omen after leaving a site i went and looked at a jove observatory and saw 2 drifter battleships, they were just chilling out around thier thing didnt mind me siting stationary 40km away.

I had a crazy idea, i aligned to a celestial and hit full; speed, i locked up the closest target, at 40-50km, once i knew i was at full speed i hit f1 and then immediately hit warp. In the time my ship went from 100% speed to warp i was sent to half hull. i switched on my armor rep and was busy fixing u p my ship in warp and as i dropped out. few seconds, another cycle suddenly im in a pod. I swing my view around and i see 2 drifters just turn around and warp back to thier spot

it was fun lol even though i lost the ship i experienced something somewhat exciting and that sudden "oh!" when my ship died was new and unfamiliar lol

Why would you shoot them anyway? What have they done to you? Sounds like you started this and deserved it.

Take it from somebody who has a lot of experience getting one-shot after aggressing targets in highsec.