Ships & Modules

A few years ago on another character w/ 60 million SP, I flew a passive tanked T2 HML Tengu and did ok in lvl 4's. Problem with the Tengu is damage output. It can do it, but very slowly. You'll also need an afterburner to orbit stuff in missions to reduce incoming damage.

This was my setup:

[Tengu, New Setup 1]

Low Slots: Use Faction/Deadspace when able
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Medium Slots: Use Faction/Deadspace Modules when able
Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster <- These are really cheap compared to comparable others
EM Ward Field II
EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

DPS: 601
Resists: 86.4 90.2 85.3 75.5
Speed: 633 m/s
Cap: With Shield Booster On: 48s Off: Stable @ 67%

Like I said, doable and slow. You'd be better off using a Faction Battleship for lvl 4's like the Machariel. I bought one the other day and had it fully kitted for less than 1 bil and pumping out 1052 DPS at 58KM max range. I don't have max skills either.

Good luck!

Don't know weather to laugh or cry.. this is NOT a passive fit.. even as an active fit its pretty terrible. I'll post mine when I get home.. but for the love of all space lovers.. don't use this

Here's a setup with a MGC II:

[Tengu, New Setup 1]

Low:
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Medium:
Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster
EM Ward Field II
EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
10MN Afterburner II
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script

High:
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier II
Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

DPS: 601
Range: 70.7 to 87.2 KM depending on script used for MGC II
Resists: 83 87.8 81.6 79
Shield Booster: Boosting 378 HP every 2.56 seconds
Cap will die within 37 seconds with booster on and stable @ 64% with it off

I'm certain Mr. Expert will shoot this down, too.

The only battleship skill I have (at 3, although if I went this route I'd bring it to 4 at least) is caldari. Would a Raven Navy serve me well? If so, fits?

No need for a damage control and you really should have a spare midslot for better damage application, here's how I fit mine (omnitanked against ganks and to save time between missions as well).

[Tengu, L4 HAM paint]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Gistum B-Type Medium Shield Booster
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum A-Type Explosive Deflection Amplifier
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II

Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

610m all in for a nearly 900 dps beauty.

You *can* use a DC2 instead of one of the BCUs just whilst learning how to fly it and use HMLs instead of HAMs if you're lazy (probably swap the rigs around slightly for HMLs whilst you're at it.)

Upgrade upto 3 of the BCUs to faction to push yourself over the 900dps mark (4th one is pointless to upgrade)

Subsystems are removable. The thing about HAM's over HML's is the range. HAM's will put out more DPS, but you're also closer to the action. HML's have range, but lose DPS. It's all about where you want to fight and how to go about it. I stick mostly to range fits, except for the Machariel since the autocannons are capable of medium range combat.

Also, that 4th BCU doesn't add much to the DPS pool due to stacking penalties. If I took away the DC2 and added a 4th BCU II, the DPS goes from 601 to 637 using Heavy Missiles.

Like I said, the fit will be based around your preferred play style.

Yeah you can swap subs as you like.

The tank is absolutely fine just make sure you kill any webs immediately - load javelins (edit not precisions derp) between rooms. I have no idea how the guys above fly their fits so that they need as much tank as they do...maybe you'd want that much for doing the extravaganza bonus rooms.

The tank is from speed/sig, not from reps. Anything above cruiser size won't be touching you.

Edit: 4th bcu adds another 50dps on the ham fit, it's better than a dc2 when you shouldn't need to dip into hull or armour anyways.

Here's another HAM fit you might like. It uses a MGE II and MCG II.

[Tengu, New Setup 1]
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Missile Guidance Enhancer II

Dread Guristas Medium Shield Booster
Dread Guristas EM Ward Field
Dread Guristas EM Ward Field
Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field
10MN Afterburner II
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

This setup will get you 886 DPS and 50K range. However, your skills may not be all lvl 5; so fitting and data may not be the same.

Haven't played with the new mods yet but MGE might be a valid alternative for the fourth low, will test tomorrow - likewise with dropping the painter for the MGC.

You need Weapon Upgrades 4 for the MGE II and Missile Bombardment 4 for the MGC II.

I have used both modules in other ships and it seems to help overall damage application. I would use them over a target painter since you won't have to switch targets to use them.

I'll have to train for the HAM Tengu. Never used HAM's in the past and the Tengu makes them a viable weapon system. Just like the Jackdaw. I have it outfitted with T2 rockets and it does well. Although, the DPS is lower than other T3D's.