Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I compared the damage application for the different long range missiles:
T1 light missiles apply 80% of their damage to frigates.
T1 heavy missiles apply 65% of their damage to cruiser.
T1 cruise missiles easily apply 100% of their damage to battleships.
T1 cruise missiles apply 66% of their damage to combat battlecruisers.
As you can see, cruise missiles have the best application, followed by light missiles, followed by heavy missiles with the worst application. In fact, heavy missiles apply worse to its own ship class than cruise missiles apply to a ship class below it.
This is why heavy missiles are bad.

Solution:
Increase all heavy missiles' explosion velocity by 50% and reduce their explosion radius by 16.5%. This will put heavy missile application right between light missiles (worst application) and cruise missiles (best application).

Here's some examples comparing new and old numbers:
T1 heavy missiles now apply 97% instead of 65% to cruisers.
T1 heavy missiles now apply 54% instead of 36% to cruisers with an afterburner.
T1 heavy missiles now apply 100% instead of 68% to 1x webbed cruisers with an afterburner.
T1 heavy missiles now apply 100% instead of 84% to 1x webbed, 1x target painted cruisers with an afterburner.
T1 heavy missiles now apply 67% instead of 45% to 1x target painted cruisers with an afterburner.
T1 heavy missiles now apply 56% instead of 38% to destroyers.
T1 heavy missiles now apply 74% instead of 61% to 1x webbed destroyers.
T1 heavy missiles now apply 100% instead of 85% to 1x webbed, 1x target painted destroyers.
Precision heavy missiles now apply 36% instead of 24% to frigates.
Precision heavy missiles now apply 47% instead of 39% to 1x webbed frigates.
Precision heavy missiles now apply 47% instead of 39% to 2x webbed frigates.
Precision heavy missiles now apply 45% instead of 30% to 1x target painted frigates.
Precision heavy missiles now apply 51% instead of 34% to 2x target painted frigates.
Precision heavy missiles now apply 65% instead of 54% to 1x webbed, 1x target painted frigates.
Precision heavy missiles now apply 77% instead of 65% to 2x webbed, 2x target painted frigates.
Precision heavy missiles now apply 20% instead of 14% to frigates with an afterburner.
Precision heavy missiles now apply 38% instead of 25% to 1x webbed frigates with an afterburner.
Precision heavy missiles now apply 47% instead of 39% to 2x webbed frigates with an afterburner.
Precision heavy missiles now apply 25% instead of 17% to 1x target painted frigates with an afterburner.
Precision heavy missiles now apply 28% instead of 19% to 2x target painted frigates with an afterburner.
Precision heavy missiles now apply 47% instead of 32% to 1x webbed, 1x target painted frigates with an afterburner.
Precision heavy missiles now apply 77% instead of 56% to 2x webbed, 2x target painted frigates with an afterburner.

Here's a pretty graph!
Heavy missile launchers are now better than rapid light missile launchers against cruisers.

Numbers are based on unbonused missiles with max skills against the average signature radius and velocity for T1 ships with max skills excluding logistics and exploration ships: 37m and 456m/s for frigates, 65m and 315m/s for destroyers, 127m and 277m/s for cruisers, 280m and 189m/s for combat battlecruisers, and 439m and 135m/s for battleships.
Modules are T2 and propulsion modules are based on the maximum velocity bonus and signature radius bonus only.

They did, and they'll help, but there should still be some semblance of balance in the base stats of missiles when considering damage application to their own class.

Yeah and they were ALMOST as good as the gang assist, easier to fit target painter.

Almost.

And my stacked rigs are ALMOST as good as they used to be.

And not to mention that it's not like new slots to fit those application modules just sprung up out of the ground when they were released. And it's still not balanced if heavy missiles need to fit more of those modules than other types of missiles do.

They just got buffed don´t get greedy.

-1

Fail rebalance is still fail. Failed argument.



+1 to Tikktokk ... coz he is "smarter than the average bear"

Greatly appreciating the thought that goes into the clever solution to a muddy yet obvious problem. +1

Hey look, someone who actually understands math. You should hire this man, CCP!

+1

sure would be nice for hmls to not suck again

I have no objections and corrected a tiny typo in your list, you're welcome.