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Dornier Pfeil
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-07-07 05:39:41 UTC
I've done very few missions and wanted to ask if story missions come in flavors (mining, distro, security, etc.) the same way normal missions do?
Lilith Folkvardr
Doomheim
#2 - 2015-07-07 05:51:08 UTC
From my experience, there is a high chance that your story mission regardless of what type of missions you did to earn it will be a Distribution mission called "War Effort" which involves buying/mining 1000 of some mineral, it is easy and takes 15 seconds to make a massive standings boost, but it still sucks, the combat story missions are fun as though! :D good pay too! :)
Haruchai Khan
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-07-07 07:16:23 UTC
Dornier Pfeil wrote:
I've done very few missions and wanted to ask if story missions come in flavors (mining, distro, security, etc.) the same way normal missions do?



It's early days, but I've been doing some missions recently, and exclusively Security ones. I have had four 'storyline missions' pop up and every single one has been a Distribution mission, exactly as Lilith Folkvadr describes.

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#4 - 2015-07-07 07:45:17 UTC
Storylines are completely random but will usually be that trade mission.

The mission is called "Materials for War Preparation".

The division of the agent has no effect on which one you get.

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#5 - 2015-07-07 08:12:04 UTC
mats for war pops up a lot, given there are 5 versions of it. I almost always run them as it is a quick trip in a travel ceptor and at ~20m a pop not bad.

I get a bunch of courier ones, I usually just ignore them. if I could fly a blockade runner I'd probably do most of them, but in a t1 hauler I just cba. If you need the standings you can fit a t1 industrial for rather quick warps, decent warp speed, and some ehp, I just don't really need the standings that bad.

the combat ones show up more often now as it seems CCP has added a bunch of them in the last few years. they give the best standing rewards by far. Although half the time I ignore them too. Usually better to just keep blitzing, rather than go a bunch of jumps for whatever. but again the standing rewards are nice so I do a few of them to keep my standings high.

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Dornier Pfeil
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-07-07 13:22:30 UTC
Ok, thank you all.
I ran a whole bunch of missions at random yesterday; no particular emphasis on any flavor. When a story line finally popped up it was a Courier mission called "A Special Delivery".
My concern, and reason for coming to forums, is that I am doing missions explicitly for standing. The goodies are icing on the cake but of no real benefit to me; I have as much isk as my needs demand. But my understanding is that, while I get fantastic native empire standing boost from storyline missions, I'll simultaneously get a standing negative to one of my other two enemy empires, presumably Gallente though the mission descript doesn't say. I have studiously avoided security missions so I don't have to shoot any Gallente ships and if, because it is a courier mission I'm not shooting Gallente, I'll still take a hit to my Gallente standings, then the storyline missions are useless to me.
Can anyone shed light on this predicament?
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#7 - 2015-07-08 02:38:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Lost Greybeard
Storyline agents have types just like every other agent.

People that are getting Materials for War Preparation every time, for instance, have a distribution subtype agent for the most part. If you're annoyed by this or just want most of your storyline missions to involve shooting stuff, look up storyline agents with the Security type, then you have to find an L4 (or Lwhatever you're doing) agent for the same overall empire for whom that storyline agent is the nearest storyline agent.

That's actually how which story agent asks your help is determined, where you are in space when it's issued (aka when you turn in the normal mission that triggers it), which faction that normal mission is for, and which storyline agent is closest.

This is why when I used to work for Federal Security because it was close to low-sec, all my storylines were Aliastra, that one L4 story agent was the shortest auto-path route to the station I got my security missions.

EDIT: if you don't know how the categories work, technically any agent can give you any mission compatible with the corp but the probabilities are changed. You'll still get materials for war sometimes with security story guys.

EDIT 2: You are also correct in that you shouldn't do story missions if you want to avoid dropping opposed empire faction. That said, losing opposed empire faction isn't usually that big a deal unless you're also missioning for them.
Vorll Minaaran
Centre Of Attention
#8 - 2015-07-08 12:41:28 UTC
Dornier Pfeil wrote:
Ok, thank you all.
I ran a whole bunch of missions at random yesterday; no particular emphasis on any flavor. When a story line finally popped up it was a Courier mission called "A Special Delivery".
My concern, and reason for coming to forums, is that I am doing missions explicitly for standing. The goodies are icing on the cake but of no real benefit to me; I have as much isk as my needs demand. But my understanding is that, while I get fantastic native empire standing boost from storyline missions, I'll simultaneously get a standing negative to one of my other two enemy empires, presumably Gallente though the mission descript doesn't say. I have studiously avoided security missions so I don't have to shoot any Gallente ships and if, because it is a courier mission I'm not shooting Gallente, I'll still take a hit to my Gallente standings, then the storyline missions are useless to me.
Can anyone shed light on this predicament?


Last time I did a Gallente mat.for.war.prep lvl1 mission, get +0,5973% standing for gallente and minmatar, and hit -0,5733% for caldari and -0,1781% for amarr.
If you need faction standing for your faction, you need to do the storyline missions. To avoid hard hit on opposing faction standing refuse the faction ship killing missions.

Train diplomacy and connetion skills, and you will be ok.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-07-09 02:35:27 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#10 - 2015-07-09 05:11:16 UTC
as far as I can tell agent type has nothing to do with mission granted when it comes to storyline missions, and I've been 9.9+ with caldari, I have the 2 run CNR bpc to prove it.

of course as I say that all my sec storyline agents have combat missions, and all the others have mats for war or courier missions

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Lilith Folkvardr
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-07-09 05:21:15 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
as far as I can tell agent type has nothing to do with mission granted when it comes to storyline missions, and I've been 9.9+ with caldari, I have the 2 run CNR bpc to prove it.

of course as I say that all my sec storyline agents have combat missions, and all the others have mats for war or courier missions


You get a 2 Run BPC when you get high standings? :D
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#12 - 2015-07-09 08:01:56 UTC
Lilith Folkvardr wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
as far as I can tell agent type has nothing to do with mission granted when it comes to storyline missions, and I've been 9.9+ with caldari, I have the 2 run CNR bpc to prove it.

of course as I say that all my sec storyline agents have combat missions, and all the others have mats for war or courier missions


You get a 2 Run BPC when you get high standings? :D


a 2 run navy frig for high 8ish 2 run navy cruiser for 9 something, and 2 run navy bs for 9.9 I forget the exact levels, but I flew out and collected them all in one go. there is a more detailed resource somewhere.

blitz missions and chain storyline missions and it happens pretty fast, my main problem is that I get bored with missions and that makes it take way longer. now I don't care about losing a bit of standing and keep it around 8, and use the excess to decline bad missions and blitz the good ones.

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voetius
Grundrisse
#13 - 2015-07-09 08:04:54 UTC
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#14 - 2015-07-10 02:12:53 UTC
I know that DMC will correct this if I am wrong and I hope he does.

Lost Greybeard actually has this correct.
Story line agents have the same divisions and regular agents.
When you qualify for a story line mission you will always get that mission from the closest story line agent regardless of what division you have been running for and what division the story line agent is.

So knowing what type of story line mission you want, and knowing where the closest story line agent from the division is become critical. For that sites like these can be very helpfull.

http://eve-agents.com/

http://www.evepanel.net/agentsfinder.html
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#15 - 2015-07-11 13:34:43 UTC
I've run hundreds of missions over the past year or so for the sole purpose of raising standing for several of my characters.

1. Each chain in the career missions has a storyline mission at the end - make sure you run them.
2. The SOE Epic Arc will grant 8% standing boost for the faction of your choice with no derived loss for their opponent. Recommended and can be run every 3 months to repair standing. http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/The_Blood-Stained_Stars
3. Level 3 missions are best for standing. If you have completed the career missions and the epic arc you will be close to qualifying.
4. Train social and connections to at least level 3. Use LP to buy skillbooks for security connections, distribution connections etc... if you intend to mission as a career.
5. Find a spot with basic agents and storyline agents for the same NPC corp either in the same station or within a couple of jumps - http://eve-agents.com/ is very helpful.
6. Avoid missions that involve killing other empire factions - you will take a major standing hit with them. Stick to killing pirates or drones.
7. Use http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=HomePage to learn about the mission before you run it.
8. Have fun.
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2015-07-11 14:37:26 UTC
lots of good info here so far just want to add a clarification and an additional point.

Every 16 missions of the same level with the same faction you get a storyline mission for that faction, of that level. The storyline mission will come from the nearest storyline agent of that faction.

Each Empire faction has a level 4 epic arc. They pay pretty well and as a bonus give a good faction boost at the end that does not come with a hit towards opposing factions. Like the SoE epic arc they can only be done once per quarter meaning every 3 months. Also don't forget the factions like SoE that give good derived boosts to Minmatar and especially Gallente with very little negative hits to Amarr and Caldari.

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Mr Mac
Dark Goliath
#17 - 2015-07-12 15:49:18 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
I know that DMC will correct this if I am wrong and I hope he does.

Lost Greybeard actually has this correct.
Story line agents have the same divisions and regular agents.
When you qualify for a story line mission you will always get that mission from the closest story line agent regardless of what division you have been running for and what division the story line agent is.

So knowing what type of story line mission you want, and knowing where the closest story line agent from the division is become critical. For that sites like these can be very helpfull.

http://eve-agents.com/

http://www.evepanel.net/agentsfinder.html


No really. Mining storyline agent can give combat mission. CCP changed few patch ago. Any storyline agent gives random storyline mission.
Yossarian Toralen
M and M Enterpises
#18 - 2015-07-13 12:41:46 UTC
My advice would be to skip all the storyline missions and missions against major factions, when you can run L4 security missions effectively it only takes a few hours running missions to increase corp standings enough to be able to do L4 missions for them unless you have negative faction standings and that is where the grind comes in. Doing L1 missions for chump change for hours and hours isn't the best.

The rewards for ruining standings with two major factions isn't worth it in my opinion and just limits what you can do in the future, sure the cosmic agents give you good rewards but you can only do them once and it's all over, doing the L4 epic arcs is just a chain of missions, some of which are more difficult and offer better rewards than regular L4 missions.

You can find out which type of storyline agent you will get by using the agent finder and setting it to L1 and select storyline agent, the closest will be what you get (I think you set the faction to what faction you are doing and corp to "any" from memory). Just like Mr Mac says I have experienced mining storyline agents giving me a quite difficult combat mission for a miner.
Dornier Pfeil
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2015-07-14 00:35:23 UTC
Vorll Minaaran wrote:
Last time I did a Gallente mat.for.war.prep lvl1 mission, get +0,5973% standing for gallente and minmatar, and hit -0,5733% for caldari and -0,1781% for amarr.
If you need faction standing for your faction, you need to do the storyline missions. To avoid hard hit on opposing faction standing refuse the faction ship killing missions.

Train diplomacy and connetion skills, and you will be ok.


Props for being the only peep who answered my question. Thank you. I'll just ignore all the story missions. I'm not in any hurry so I don't mind losing the giant standing increases for native faction. Relevant skills are already maxed out.
Thank you too for prompting me to hunt down those 4 decimal place numbers. I poked and prodded the ui until i forced that info out of it. They gave me exactly the knowledge I needed.

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2015-07-14 03:21:10 UTC
Everyone answered your questions, most even gave you lot's of extra, very helpful info as well.

The thing that everyone neglected to mention is that even though Storyline missions give both negative and positive Faction standing, they also give a very large boost to Corporation standing.

That's why most everyone was saying find Agents that are located near a Storyline Agent associated with the same Corp that you're currently working. Sometimes that's a rather large order to fill. To make that easier, just complete 15 missions for your regular Agent and then travel to a different Corp Agent who's located near the Corp Storyline Agent and complete the 16th mission. That will ensure you get the Storyline offer from the Corp Storyline Agent.



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