EVE General Discussion

I agree with the OP. I feel I'm at a significant disadvantage not being able to PvP with officer mods. This is most definitely not caused by a lack of skillpoints! (it is by a total lack of skill itself, but thats our little forum-secret)


But seriously; T2 >T1 in most cases (not all!). That being said; I've always believed the words I heard in one of EVE's most early trailers:

"Sure they're always trying to build a faster ship or better weapons. But they just don't get it. Brains are a better weapon than any Megathron class battleship or any graviton smartbomb."

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but to the op:

You sound like someone who looks to get a new job but goes 'Oh wait no, they have guys that have been there for 10 years with newer tools then i have.. yea sorry i won;t take that job"

Change your mentality. not that difficult

I remember Large Shield Extenders II at 25 mil p/u.

Eve is a job now?

always has been, what you did not know? ;)

Something of notice is that brains with Megathron class battleship and some graviton smartbombs are better than ones without.

When i started to play you could use a drake to get into any fleet
It was good .
1 Not skill intensive hull or weapon system
2. Newbe could easy go unnoticed by enemy , as he was in right ship , and it is hard to difference skills or equipment on field.
3. Loosing uninsured drake resulted in nothing more than 20mil loose ( much less if you where using T1 stuff)

Now, after all this changes and balance changes when you want to join a fleet :
1. You need to fly : T2 Hac , T2 Logi , T3 Cruiser , Faction Battleship
2. Newbie is not welcomed, as he usually don't have skills , for ship and mods required
3. Loosing one of those ships result in at least 120mil loose , but usually around 300mil

From perspective of older player , loosing became more expensive , but there is no problem in terms of hulls , as i don't fly only mining barge/rorqual/jf, 2 freighters and cannot use doomsday or fighter bombers ...

This shift in meta was very bad for new players , yes T1 cruisers where boosted, but in current meta real play starts when you can put in a good use , normal ships (T2 Hac , T2 Logi , T3 Cruiser , Faction Battleship).
Then you can farm as much as you can those unlucky newbies in T1 cruisers that don't have any chance.

A Punisher in the hands of someone who is intimately familiar with their ships capabilities is more than capable of taking on a pirate faction frigate in the hands of someone who is not so familiar with their ships capabilities.

Knowledge, or lack thereof, is far more of a barrier to PvP than cost.

That's called picking your battles, it's one tactic among many that are universally available, it's not a guaranteed "I win".

Not sure you could actually work that. You can say you'll pay out 95% of the ship's cost, but since EVE ships are made from player mined minerals an increase in beautiful space explosions puts upward pressure on costs unless there's also a correlating increase in mining.

Or put more simply, if you blow ships up faster than the bot-miners can replace them then the X% insurance deficit will just end up rising until you're right back at net cost/ship levels that you wanted to avoid.

Bro, if you through me an ingame message I give you a 1 Week Skill-Plan and throw away cheap fit that will make you worthwhile in any pvp battle if you have some friend that also use it.

This is the barrier for pvp -> Ingame friends