These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Intergalactic Summit

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

[update] Drifter weapons suite upgraded, reduced presence in Amarr

Author
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#1 - 2015-07-07 13:34:45 UTC
Pilots;

A small note on a few observations from a survey completed today.

In the first place, Jove Observatories appear to be more damaged than before, with holing of the structure in the lower quarter, increased energetic discharge, and gas leakage indicating either coolant or atmosphere loss.

In the second place, Drifters were absent from most Amarr systems. The only Drifters located in Amarr space were present in the Ivih system, where they appeared to be observing the Jove Observatory (no salvage was observed, but observation was brief), and using the unidentified wormhole as normal.

Lastly, the Drifters' weapons suite appears to have been upgraded; upon engagement, energy neutralization, stasis webifiers and warp scramblers were all activated immediately, instead of a scramble being activated only preceding the use of the Vigilant Tyrannos superweapon.

My thanks to the pilots of IKAME, CAIN, and Signal Cartel who participated in this survey sweep.

Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?

Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#2 - 2015-07-07 13:43:11 UTC
How did you escape? I see no loss to them recently in yours or IKAME's public records.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#3 - 2015-07-07 13:45:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
I didn't; you're not seeing a Galnet result because IKAME doesn't publicize its combat records.

We're explorers and researchers. Why maintain public logs of them when combat is something we usually avoid?

Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?

Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-07-07 13:53:06 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
I didn't; you're not seeing a Galnet result because IKAME doesn't publicize its combat records.

We're explorers and researchers. Why maintain public logs of them when combat is something we usually avoid?


That's not true. I see your records are public here, https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98381456/
Maria Daphiti
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#5 - 2015-07-07 13:56:53 UTC
Anyanka Funk wrote:
Makoto Priano wrote:
I didn't; you're not seeing a Galnet result because IKAME doesn't publicize its combat records.

We're explorers and researchers. Why maintain public logs of them when combat is something we usually avoid?


That's not true. I see your records are public here.../


If one is engaged by pilot whose records are public, then that may be how the battle gets reported, win or lose. Alternatively, if the other pilot posts or reports it to a reporting site. I believe that's the case in this example.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#6 - 2015-07-07 13:58:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
Anyanka Funk wrote:


That's not true. I see your records are public here, ...


Seeded from other corporations' kill reports. Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries, Ltd. doesn't publicize records, but some records may be publicized by other groups. Given that the groups that hunt explorers are much more concerned with kill reports, they're more likely to publicize records than we are.

As CEO of IKAME, you're wrong, basically.

In any case, let's return to the matter at hand: the Vigilant Tyrannos.

Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?

Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#7 - 2015-07-07 14:00:28 UTC
Ms. Priano - what is the range of such devices? and do they inhibit microwarp drives?

"For it was said they had become like those peculiar demons, which dwell in matter but in whom no light may be found." - Father Grigori, Ravens 3:57

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#8 - 2015-07-07 14:04:53 UTC
Ms. Kley; the engagement was at point-blank range as I was closing with an unidentified wormhole, so I don't know the maximum range of the system. That said, combat logs do list it as a 'warp scramble,' and MWD didn't pulse after the scramble initiated.

Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?

Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#9 - 2015-07-07 14:17:25 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Anyanka Funk wrote:


That's not true. I see your records are public here, ...


Seeded from other corporations' kill reports. Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries, Ltd. doesn't publicize records, but some records may be publicized by other groups. Given that the groups that hunt explorers are much more concerned with kill reports, they're more likely to publicize records than we are.

As CEO of IKAME, you're wrong, basically.

In any case, let's return to the matter at hand: the Vigilant Tyrannos.


The Vigilant Tyrannos corporation publicizes their combat records.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#10 - 2015-07-07 14:19:22 UTC
Interesting. This confirms my concern: They are capable of adapting their vessels to pose a even larger threat.

❤️️💛💚💙💜

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#11 - 2015-07-07 14:20:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
Anyanka Funk wrote:


The Vigilant Tyrannos corporation publicizes their combat records.


Not specifically, no.

Most corporations only publicize capsuleer-v-capsuleer engagements via Galnet sites, and opt to not show losses to baseliner ships. While clearly the Tyrannos vessels aren't baseliner-crewed, they're not definitively capsuleer, and so originally didn't appear on Galnet kill listings.

Given the shocking nature of some losses to the Vigilant Tyrannos, Galnet administrators decided to change standard operating procedure to show losses to the Tyrannos.

Speaking as CEO of Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries, Ltd., I can safely say that IKAME has not registered with a Galnet kill service, and so IKAME losses would only be publicized when they are to a so-registered capsuleer corporation.

With regret, Funk, I must say again that you are wrong.

Mizhir wrote:
Interesting. This confirms my concern: They are capable of adapting their vessels to pose a even larger threat.


As if they weren't powerful enough...

Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?

Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-07-07 14:28:04 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Anyanka Funk wrote:


The Vigilant Tyrannos corporation publicizes their combat records.


Not specifically, no.

Most corporations only publicize capsuleer-v-capsuleer engagements via Galnet sites, and opt to not show losses to baseliner ships. While clearly the Tyrannos vessels aren't baseliner-crewed, they're not definitively capsuleer, and so originally didn't appear on Galnet kill listings.

Given the shocking nature of some losses to the Vigilant Tyrannos, Galnet administrators decided to change standard operating procedure to show losses to the Tyrannos.

Speaking as CEO of Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries, Ltd., I can safely say that IKAME has not registered with a Galnet kill service, and so IKAME losses would only be publicized when they are to a so-registered capsuleer corporation.

With regret, Funk, I must say again that you are wrong.

Mizhir wrote:
Interesting. This confirms my concern: They are capable of adapting their vessels to pose a even larger threat.


As if they weren't powerful enough...

Excuse me for my mistake then.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#13 - 2015-07-07 14:29:22 UTC
Anyanka Funk wrote:

Excuse me for my mistake then.


Apology noted.

Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?

Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#14 - 2015-07-07 15:56:10 UTC
Has there been any in-combat self repair capabilities observed aside from the standard shield recharge?

❤️️💛💚💙💜

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#15 - 2015-07-07 16:17:13 UTC
Quote:
Drifters were absent from most Amarr systems.


Hardly surprising.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#16 - 2015-07-07 18:18:46 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Has there been any in-combat self repair capabilities observed aside from the standard shield recharge?


Unfortunately, the encounter wasn't exactly one to test the limits of Tyrannos repair capability. I'll hopefully be able to report on that soon.

Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?

Naraish Adarn
Alexylva Paradox
#17 - 2015-07-07 18:37:09 UTC
that's disconcerting and surprising how quickly they ramped up their weapon systems as counter to more organized capsuleer engagements and amarr response. i do hope i'm not the only one getting distinct feeling of having overlooked something obvious?
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#18 - 2015-07-07 22:21:12 UTC
Months to implement tactics capsuleers consider basic at that we utilise in simple bolt on & off modular fashion is considered 'rapidly' these days? It's been an obvious response for them to use ever since people started using frigates & destroyers on them, as the standard way a Battleship can survive attack by smaller ships.
It's as expected as them fitting ECCM in response to mass use of ECM against the drifters.
Depending how potent the Neuts and Webs are and how far they extend that may be an interesting question though. Of if they are of normal strength, or more comparable to pirate vessels, or even stronger.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#19 - 2015-07-08 16:49:21 UTC
As an aside, I've been observing J110145 (Barbican) and pilots Haritimado and Avetus surveyed J200727 (Conflux) yesterday. We've noticed a marked increase in unidentified wormhole entrances; before, we'd find five entrances and one C2-C2 connection. Now, there appear to be nine entrances and one C2-C2 connection.

With the withdrawal of Drifters from Amarr space, it would appear they've again increased their harvesting of Antikythera Elements.

I wonder if this is perhaps in response to losses taken in Sarum Prime, and if the Vigilant Tyrannos may be attempting to rapidly replace losses...? Presumably, the Antikythera Element, being used as an infomorph router or control system, may be used by the Drifters either as a means to project their infomorph into their vessel, or perhaps even to project the Vigilant Tyrannos infomorph into what appears to be a reanimated Jove corpse, per the Drifter autopsy conducted by Anslo, Mizhir, Kybernetes Moros and Kalo Askold.

Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?

The Golden Serpent
A Drunken Squirrels' Conspiracy for Revenge
#20 - 2015-07-16 23:22:24 UTC
Yeah thanks for doing all of this, now we can go back to our regular lives and nobody can blame the Empress for inciting Drifter attacks.

Like I said, they are just here to learn about our religion.

-:¦:-•:'":•.-:¦:-•* K H A N I D •-:¦:-•:''''*:•-:¦:-