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Returning ex-CFC AFK bittervet

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Abaroth Charmar
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2015-07-03 09:45:50 UTC
What course of action would you fine people suggest for a returning ex-CFC bittervet who has spent the last 4 years in 0.0 either AFK, stuck in a stupid [insert CFC FOTM doctrine ship] fleet or bored to tears ship-spinning in station?

I've moved all my stuff out to highsec and liquidated a lot of unnecessary assets.

An awful lot has changed in the 4 years I've spent not logging in at all, logging in and not undocking, or logging in, undocking, watching tidi, then waking up in a clone.

Is highsec a viable place to make isk, make new friends and enjoy the game once more? Is there such a thing as a highsec community beyond the shitpoasting in Jita local?

Is it still a case of "ermergerd go to 0.0 or gtfo"?

I haven't mined for 10 years, but then it's crap in highsec isn't it?

I've never owned a POS, but then they're being removed from the game eventually aren't they?

I'm not skilled for the new stuff like hacking, new probing system, etc etc

For all intents and purposes, imagine I have just woken up and it's 2008 in EVE. That's where I'm at skills-wise. Marauders and Black Ops are "new".
Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
#2 - 2015-07-03 09:49:08 UTC
At first, I'd like to suggest you posts with your main and not a faceless alt. Smile

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Don Purple
Snuggle Society
#3 - 2015-07-03 09:54:52 UTC
Contract me all your stuff to "hold onto" while you start over and re learn the game :D

Highsec can be a lot of fun but money is pretty low besides incursions and most of those fleets are awful.
Go war dec some people and make some enemies!

I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.

Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc.
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
#4 - 2015-07-03 09:55:15 UTC
Secondly, Id be surprised that youd find anything to do in high, low or WHs if null is so absolutely boring for you. Theres always "something" to do but if it isnt fun for you or if youve done it for the umpteenth time it wont be all that.

But you could at least TRY it.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.

Sequester Risalo
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-07-03 10:02:52 UTC
Abaroth Charmar wrote:
What course of action would you fine people suggest for a returning ex-CFC bittervet who has spent the last 4 years in 0.0 either AFK, stuck in a stupid [insert CFC FOTM doctrine ship] fleet or bored to tears ship-spinning in station?


I don't really know what to suggest, as you seem to be a bit slow. Taking 4 years to notice you don't like nullsec is abit long. As others have pointed out there are really not many options in highsec you didn't have in null.

I probing and hacking is new to you I don't want to know what skills you trained in the last four years. you will probably be able to fly all sorts of ships which are not allowed in highsec. Hacking can be fun. but it's much more rewarding in wormholes or nullsec.

Maybe you should try trading or hauling as you have not discarded these options right away.
Vishanka
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-07-03 10:10:42 UTC
Use the sandbox, have ideas, live them :) try crazy stuff, crazy but effective ships and fittings, scare new players, help them, annoy gankers, do something funny :) Do things you haven't done before!
Play the game :)
Abaroth Charmar
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2015-07-03 10:11:04 UTC
Sequester Risalo wrote:
I don't really know what to suggest, as you seem to be a bit slow. Taking 4 years to notice you don't like nullsec is abit long.


It took 4 years to realise because I was stuck in a cycle of doing stuff, going afk, coming back, having to learn different stuff because of buffs/nerfs/CFC whims, going afk again, coming back, having to relocate because everyone had left the region etc etc

Entirely my own fault I know, but RL takes priority.

My most recent return to 0.0 coincided with the beginnings of FozzieSov, this Jump fatigue nonsense, nerf to jump drive range, death of sentry Archons, the collapse of FA and the evac of Fountain.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#8 - 2015-07-03 11:15:27 UTC
Abaroth Charmar wrote:
Sequester Risalo wrote:
I don't really know what to suggest, as you seem to be a bit slow. Taking 4 years to notice you don't like nullsec is abit long.


It took 4 years to realise because I was stuck in a cycle of doing stuff, going afk, coming back, having to learn different stuff because of buffs/nerfs/CFC whims, going afk again, coming back, having to relocate because everyone had left the region etc etc

Entirely my own fault I know, but RL takes priority.

My most recent return to 0.0 coincided with the beginnings of FozzieSov, this Jump fatigue nonsense, nerf to jump drive range, death of sentry Archons, the collapse of FA and the evac of Fountain.


So you left just as it's starting to get good again

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Random Bacon
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-07-03 15:04:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Random Bacon
From what I've been reading FozzieSov is going to change things so radically it's worth preparing to run your own corporation, you have the skills, the experience, the comprehension of what you will be facing, you've no doubt spotted infiltration games and harassment declarations.

If things go a certain way in FozzieSov the ability to own small regions for you and a crew will be a fun time.

There is also a proposal lurking around in development heaven that outlines a risky process of hiring NPCs to ship items system to system, either to hi-sec or as part of a larger production chain between low-null systems.

If, like me, you are avoiding full large scale PvP requirements until FozzieSov is fully implemented it's worth doing faction warfare, or completing the COSMOS missions.

For hi-sec the limits are really down to preference. If you want PvP; base near a low-sec pocket and you can head out as you like, run anomalies for escalations to get a chance at faction loot when you don't want to pvp.

The high end of Hi-Sec management seems to be based on controlling the supply of minerals or finding a spot in a queue for exploration such that you can identify when people are starting to occupy a scanning area (list of systems to scan in consecutive order) so that you can get ahead of the scanner to be at the end of the complex before they scan it down.

If you are aiming to bankroll another null-sec campaign without the risk of cloaky campers putting an embargo on your ship replacement program, it's mining. Or the massively difficult to get into Incursion running scene.

Some people have been learning scanning skills to run astero's through Thera using a link wormhole to null-sec to run data/relic sites. Their streams are interesting enough and the illusion of "hmmm. Null-sec looks quiet" soon changes if you try to fly up in a noob ship to hi mom the streamer. (Links are regularly posted on www.eve-scout.com , although it's not too far fetched to expect the scouts to quickly occupy the connection wormholes when the webpage loads, although I've not seen it. Thera is a nice looking system.)

If you are still interested in a full blown PvP campaign keep an eye out as some Alliances are deliberately targeting the old boys of null.

More will soon be taking on this challenge when it's less of a road to damnation following the changes to sovereignty.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
#10 - 2015-07-03 15:23:51 UTC
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#11 - 2015-07-03 15:43:54 UTC
Abaroth Charmar wrote:
ex-CFC bittervet


I'd say you're halfway there :P
V1P3RR
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2015-07-03 21:29:52 UTC
stealth grrr goons thread ?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#13 - 2015-07-04 01:30:57 UTC
Abaroth Charmar wrote:
What course of action would you fine people suggest for a returning ex-CFC bittervet who has spent the last 4 years in 0.0 either AFK, stuck in a stupid [insert CFC FOTM doctrine ship] fleet or bored to tears ship-spinning in station?

I've moved all my stuff out to highsec and liquidated a lot of unnecessary assets.

An awful lot has changed in the 4 years I've spent not logging in at all, logging in and not undocking, or logging in, undocking, watching tidi, then waking up in a clone.

Is highsec a viable place to make isk, make new friends and enjoy the game once more? Is there such a thing as a highsec community beyond the shitpoasting in Jita local?

Is it still a case of "ermergerd go to 0.0 or gtfo"?

I haven't mined for 10 years, but then it's crap in highsec isn't it?

I've never owned a POS, but then they're being removed from the game eventually aren't they?

I'm not skilled for the new stuff like hacking, new probing system, etc etc

For all intents and purposes, imagine I have just woken up and it's 2008 in EVE. That's where I'm at skills-wise. Marauders and Black Ops are "new".




Well if you want to make some ISK there's highsec incursions and you do have to be on your ball to handle that.

Exploration is overflowing with new content and challenges to a point never even dreamed of before.

You can always join the highsec gankers but if you find that tedious and prefer the underdog and highly unpredictable results, the anti-ganking team.

Fozzie SOV coming soon is said to be a wrench in many a nullsec gear incoming. Consider waiting.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

goudaMob
Victory or Whatever
Pen Is Out
#14 - 2015-07-04 03:14:42 UTC
Abaroth Charmar wrote:

Is it still a case of "ermergerd go to 0.0 or gtfo"?


You could always just uninstall
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#15 - 2015-07-04 05:58:16 UTC
Contact a player named Harry Forever. He will show you your destiny.
Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
Pen Is Out
#16 - 2015-07-04 08:26:10 UTC
Abaroth Charmar wrote:
What course of action would you fine people suggest for a returning ex-CFC bittervet who has spent the last 4 years in 0.0 either AFK, stuck in a stupid [insert CFC FOTM doctrine ship] fleet or bored to tears ship-spinning in station?

I've moved all my stuff out to highsec and liquidated a lot of unnecessary assets.

An awful lot has changed in the 4 years I've spent not logging in at all, logging in and not undocking, or logging in, undocking, watching tidi, then waking up in a clone.

Is highsec a viable place to make isk, make new friends and enjoy the game once more? Is there such a thing as a highsec community beyond the shitpoasting in Jita local?

Is it still a case of "ermergerd go to 0.0 or gtfo"?

I haven't mined for 10 years, but then it's crap in highsec isn't it?

I've never owned a POS, but then they're being removed from the game eventually aren't they?

I'm not skilled for the new stuff like hacking, new probing system, etc etc

For all intents and purposes, imagine I have just woken up and it's 2008 in EVE. That's where I'm at skills-wise. Marauders and Black Ops are "new".


You can make good ISK running missions in highsec for certain factions. Incursions print ISK though I've no experience with them. Station trading can print money if you've a knack for that sort of thing. Faction warfare missions or plexing can be lucrative.

Sort out a reliable income source, then go out solo or with a small group and kill stuff. It requires more effort than F1 on command in a thousand man blob and it's infinitely more satisfying. You'll lose more ships hence the reliable income source.

It sounds like you were used to just following orders and waiting for the FC to find content to primary. Going out and hunting down your own, however you do it whether it's mission baiting or wardecs or cloaky hunting or slash and burn frigate duels, is in my opinion much more fulfilling than taking fleet warps, deploying sentries and pressing f or f1 until you explode or dock up.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#17 - 2015-07-04 09:16:12 UTC
Abaroth Charmar wrote:
What course of action would you fine people suggest for a returning ex-CFC bittervet who has spent the last 4 years in 0.0 either AFK, stuck in a stupid [insert CFC FOTM doctrine ship] fleet or bored to tears ship-spinning in station?

...

For all intents and purposes, imagine I have just woken up...

Not posting in GD but in NCQA instead might be a good start.

Remove standings and insurance.

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#18 - 2015-07-04 09:41:49 UTC
erm 1.0 mining? Roll

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#19 - 2015-07-04 12:36:17 UTC
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#20 - 2015-07-05 04:06:46 UTC
If I was coming back from 2008, I'd do the new player tutorials. There's a lot of new stuff, and they'll force you to notice it. Otherwise, you might just go back into your old habits and take a long time to notice the new stuff even exists.