EVE General Discussion

You can read the lore if you want to get a sense of the role that corporations play in New Eden society, which is different from the society in which you live. Imagine if Apple were allowed to have a sanctioned, shooting war with Microsoft. The corp that you belong to (role-play wise) would be an integral part of your identity in New Eden. Corps in Eve operate a lot more like what we'd consider to be organized crime families.

Lore and role-play aside, these days, you're in an NPC corp until you join a player corp so that you pay taxes to someone, if for no other reason. Several years ago there were a lot of complaints that people weren't joining player run corps because they could evade taxes by staying in an NPC corp. CCP "fixed" that to try to encourage more people to join or form player corps.

As you say, it just makes those who essentially want to play the game solo to form a corp for themselves and their alts.

Just create the 'Anti-Corporations Corporation' and carry on the fight.

So a lot of interesting responses. I believe the reason CCP tries to discourage no corps or one man corps is so people join up with others, make friends. and in turn don't get bored of the game and stay longer. The people is what this game is about and your relationships with them. Not the actual game play itself.

Hmm...
Drop player corp, and you become corp-less. If we adjust lore such that CONCORD requires capsuleers to be in a corp for tracking purposes, the new lore is that the corp-less players block the tracking data feed to CONCORD.
While corp-less, you pay no taxes and can't do any of the normal player corp stuff.
You're permanently suspect, so KOS by anybody in highsec since CONCORD isn't tracking you and won't avenge you.
At the same time, you can freely engage other pilots without CONCORD intervention, since you can temporarily block the other player's feed to CONCORD alerting them to the gank.

This opens up an interesting new playstyle - a player-based police force, able to engage highsec suspects at will.
This does complicate ganking, since recon of other players will be required. At the same time, a successful gank could be pulled off with zero ship losses. (Bumping Machs in NPC corps will still be a thing, of course.)

(As a corollary, allow corp-less players to join any NPC corp they wish, even ones outside their racial heritage, even starter corps.)

You claim to roleplay, but suggest an unaffiliated individual would have the means to become both a capsuleer as well as keeping cloning facilities running without the backup of a corporation.

Us capsuleers use technologies and resources well beyond even the spacerich of EVE. It requires corporations and their resources to keep us going. Lore suggests us to be gods among men.

In our current real life western economic model, sending an invoice requires a corporation as well. You must register with a company name and get a "business number" before you can bill anyone.
Even those that would prefer to avoid the law and its regulations tend to give themselves a name. That you can already simulate by creating a "pirate corp". Alot of people have pretty creative names for their "corporation".

But I don't care for EVE lore myself, so couldn't care less if they removed the need to be in a corp. I view players in NPC corps as "unaffiliated" or still preparing for the "real stuff".

Adding to this:
- Players out of a corp can not dock in stations.
- They would need others to bring them stuff for sale to a POS or exchange point in space
- Unless they owned the station privately and had others defending it as a free port

Further, it would be good to apply to different NPC corps.

Joining the Guristas and not being able to dock in any other stations, being hunted immediately by NPCs in other sectors of space (not Concord, more destructable ones that warp after you and change systems to follow you even), developing that pirate faction, sell them enough minerals and a new station might pop up in one of their systems, gain enough, have their NPCs trying to help you, ...
... basically acting out all that roleplaying and being able to alter the galaxy.

The meaning of corporations in the world of EVE is far greater, far more significant, than what we know of today.
For the people of EVE not being "tied" to a corporation is like money having no value - and we're not even talking about a return to a barter system...
Even the most chuunibyou teen-rebel isn't able to really get rid of the concept of money...

The lone Drifter archetype is the one man corp - the prospector needs some legal standing in order to leverage their finds...

Aaah, the want the cake and eat it argument. It isn't about corp conveniences, as you are provided with a lot of functionality that you need to use as a capsuleer. If you don't want to be beholden to anyone, then choose not to be a capsuleer. Simple.

It's a bit like saying I want to be a pilot, but I'm not going to take any exams, pay any fees or work for a company, as I 'don't want to be beholden to anyone'. Good luck buying a plane without a credit history (as you can't be beholden to a bank) and good luck trying to fly your plane to anywhere useful (as you don't want to be beholden to anyone that recognises your qualifications).

The naivety of the internet never ceases to underwhelm me.

/edit Let me guess, your character's parents were killed by marauding orcs, leaving you alone and destitute in a wild, uncaring world, just like all the other 'wannabe' lone wolves. Go on, do something original and make a difference as opposed to being irrelevant.

He is saying that lawyers are harder to kill than a cockroach (cockroaches are a notoriously hardy species). His comment about the cold war stems from a saying that if all out nuclear war occured only cockroaches would survive because they are so hard to kill.

I don't want to come off as a Church of HTFU zealot, but it would be nice if NPC corps occasionally wardecced each other. You can even put some back story drama in it, like a personal feud between say the CEO or Aliastra and the CEO of Native Fresh Food for example.

Lot better than letting 100 million SP bittervets wardeccing NPC corps like certain...uh.... elite highsec PVPers (OK I'm busting out laughing) keep clamoring for.

Think about it. Even noob corps. Imagine joining Eve and State Protectorate and Federal Navy Academy engages in some low level faction war. Get noobs into PVP instead of cherishing ships so much they are afraid to undock them would be better for the game.