Intergalactic Summit

As a Caldari business woman who has recently converted to the Amarr faith, I have made the natural transition from Jita, to Amarr as my favored trade hub.

To my dismay, the "local channels" are littered with theives and vagabonds much reminiscent of Jita, albeit on a much smaller (and dare I say, manageable scale). After speaking with Archbishop Abraxas about the matter, he simply admonished me to "due my duty to the people of Amarr".

I recalled a situation wherein once, a long time ago (and prior to my conversion), an Amarrian had spared me the embarrassment of entering into a highly volatile trade agreement (which would have resulted in the loss of billions of isk). Now I understood.

Forthwith, each time I travel or idle in Amarr, I will follow each scammer in local with a message thusly:
"AMARR RESIDENTS- Do not purchase anything advertised in local. They are all scams". Another interesting thing, was that local residents began to join in, by assisting me with alerting people to scams. I believe if all loyalists continue to do this, we will make Amarr an undesirable location for heathen robbers.

Proposal to Amarr Loyalists
Would any of you other loyalists join me in this simple, but dutiful action to help protect the innocents who reside in the Amarr home system, and discourage the filth and rabble from continuing to reside in our system? After all, scammers rely on the uninformed remaining uninformed in order to profit.

Unfortunately it is equally difficult to dispose of naivety or stupidity. Sometime people just need to learn the hard way.

Of course don't let that stop the attempts to dispose of the scammers though

As a Caldari business woman we would think you would understand the benefits of allowing the market some leeway to operate freely. A market is not the pulpit. It is the convergence of many diverse cultures and entrepreneurs.

We understand, more than anyone, that our life's work is to help those who exist in Darkness to find the Light. But that imperative should not take the form of a phalanx of preachers trying to impose prim and proper convent etiquette on a screaming market floor. What would harm Amarr is a market that shrinks overnight because its host state wants to snuff out any hint of impropriety.

I disagree. Holy Amarr should not need to be host to amorals.

Our market can thrive on principle without the rabble or trash polluting or sullying people's trading experiences. After all, people do not come to Amarr because there are scammers. Nor would they stop coming if there was an absence of them.

Since the majority of local currently is spam, adding to it doesn't make any difference - yet.

"Useless" connotes lack of purpose or effect.

I suppose this needs to be spelled out for you:

1. Fraudsters depend on the uninformed, remaining uninformed in order to succeed at what they do.
2. Removing the veil of ignorance, or providing ample warning to those who are careless a) enlightens them and b) denies scammers the return they seek.
3. After a period of time, scammers will see that there is little return on investment of their time spent in Amarr
4. With little to no return, they would leave and focus their capacity on areas where they can have the greatest effect (one of the other 4 trade hubs).
5. With no, or less scammers in Amarr, the reduced need there is for such actions, thereby equally less, or no spam over a period of time.

Please forgive me, if you understood my proposal as equating to continually spamming these remarks in local, even after the low-lifes have sought greener pastures.



This is done judiciously, after observation, and attempts at communication.

If you were talking about forcing capsuleers out, there is no Amarrian secular law against capsuleers scamming each other. The Articles of Yulai Convention specifically unburden the Amarr Empire from enforcing any such law. You would not be able to exercise any state mandate to force them out. Additionally, scamming also does not fall under any definition of criminal enterprise as far as CONCORD is concerned.

If you mean Amarr doctrinal law against scamming, you would have no authority of imposing that doctrine on a non-believer even in sovereign Amarr space unless you were specifically placed in charge of Reclaiming them, or in a state of war against these individuals. Neither of these conditions would be met, as we both know, of capsuleers loitering in Amarr Local.

Your personal opinion is admirable. We laud your desire to fight the morally bankrupt environment that is Amarr Local. However, Amarr exists in a cluster of other cultures and laws that do not permit anything actionable in this case. Your recourse would be to change the laws as they exist, if their current state offends you. Our opinion is that if evangelism is your passion, then your time would be better spent in an atmosphere where people are receptive and open-minded. Let the SCC and Amarrian local police do their work enforcing laws at our trade hub.

Scammers live from the weak minded, greedy and dumb people.
That means you are in at least one of these categories.
There's no exception.

There's not a single counterspammer who does not spam out of butthurtedness. Not one! There is nothing righteous in your cause, because it is driven by your selfish desire to disrupt the scammer's business. You wrongly assume you can do so, ignoring how thousands before you - equally weak minded - have tried the same with equal results. You aren't original.

You wrongly assume that most people out there are equally dumb/greedy as you are, which isn't the case. I will report you to the authorities for useless spamming to disrupt legitimate business attempts by blocking the customer's view from offers yelled in local.

We don't disagree with you, on some level. It could be said that admission into CONCORD was a sort of "Federation-ization" of all the empires in cluster. But we wonder.. you want the SCC, and by extension CONCORD, to intervene on behalf of our cultural and religious law.. but this is the same CONCORD whose ships would not intervene even as a colossal Drifter fleet headed full bore into the heart of Amarr.

We could not agree with a policy of isolationism. The socioeconomic vehicles of immigration, communication, import, and export are vital to our economy. The Empire will need to lock fingers with other states whose citizens have different cultures and morés in order to survive in an increasingly harsher universe.

An intra-cluster market, by definition, is a shared resource and for its own health it must operate under a shared set of rules and norms.

We must admit that we admire your conviction. As a flagellant we feel the need to consider physical castigation for appearing to have supported a reformist viewpoint that clashes with the orthodox principles we were Reclaimed by.