EVE General Discussion

Please forgive if something like this has been suggested before, we been talking about practical changes to capitals in comms alot lately and had this idea.


First keep Super Carriers in the spirit of carriers. Fighter/Fighter-Bomber platforms of higher dps then smaller carriers, for capital combat.

But lets add Logistics to them as the smaller carriers have logistics.

NO not capital rep mods and attempting to target ship after ship with an even slower locking ship.


Let them have a Area Effect regenerative pulse around them. Out of Triage weak to moderate pulse( Strength Skill Based ) and In Triage moderate to strong pulse........ or instead of a stronger pulse time between pusles faster or slower.

Range 75 KM to 150 KM in a sphere around the super carrier. ( SIZE of sphere a skill based aspect )

Give the regenerative field a stacking penalty like normal ship modules to keep if from being an overpowered blob effect on a fleet.

It could help counter bombers in a way with that Area effect pulse on the fleet, and give the super carrier some added use and life.

Just an idea, what do you all out there think.

Thank you, fly deadly

We could call the super-duper capitals.

Nah, just leave PL a hint, the poor dude flying around in his whatever will be PL'ed to death. Isn't that how it usually goes?

"bring carriers on alts and make sure you have 2 pulses going at all time"

I believe it will be overpowered and is less of an activity

heh...you played a shadow priest once...heh

As an Super pilot myself (Iron Man Aeon ), I would personally like to see them get less logistics power, not more. The problem these things have is they are just too good in a group, yet helpless lambs ready for the slaughter when caught out on their own. Quite simply, they need to blow up more, and giving them more ability to repair more damage by giving them aoe repair mods (smartreps?) is heading in the wrong direction I feel (if anything, I would argue for more damage with added greater vulnerability).

In essence I feel your idea goes wrong at scale (pretty much the problem the whole Super line suffers), in that on a single ship in a fight, it might make a cool feature, but drop a ball of 10-20 side-by-side and its hideously overpowered and tedious to try to fight against.

More Logi, especially more Logi on capital ships is exactly what this game needs. CCP why haven't you hired this guy yet? It's exactly the new kind of thinking we need.

While we are throwing out silly Ideas:

Create a new module called: Stasis field generator (can only be fit on supers)

- It creates a stasis field with a 20-30 km radius around the ship and the ship can not recieve remote repairs while the module is active.
- Slows all targets in range down by 20% - 30%.
- Can not be activated within the range of another Stasis field generator.

-> Remove RR bonus from supers
-> add a bonus / level to strength of the Stasis field generator

While not being totally serious about this, at least this would give them a unique role and could completly change the current meta, and should not be to hard to implement, as it should be possible to use the code of bubbles with some minor modifications.

option 2 (less creative option)

Finally get rid of off grid boosting, go back to calling them "Motherships" and turn them into capital command ships.

In such a scenario I would again create new fleet command modules just for capital ships, that remove the ability to recieve any remote repairs while the modules are running.

-> Again remove RR bonus
-> Give bonus to Links / level

The best thing they could do with Supers and Titans would be to refund them, and any skill points that are specific to them, and remove them from the game.

TL;DR, they cost too much. If you make them powerful enough to justify their cost, they're an "I Win" button. If you nerf them (or change sov mechanics to make them essentially irrelevant), enough to make them not an "I Win" button, they are not cost-justified.

When they entered the game, they were, and were supposed to be, a rare sight that only the most powerful orgs could field, and then only in limited numbers. CCP underestimated the long term ability of players to grind out the isk and resources to build them.

There is no role that CCP can give them that justifies their cost on the one hand and doesn't imbalance the game on the other. They should do the right thing, admit that their introduction was a mistake, and refund/remove them.