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Witness to Divine Intervention or an Amarr Super Weapon

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Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#21 - 2015-07-01 01:56:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
Double standards? No. Capsuleers are licensed and registered pilots allowed access throughout high security space under the CONCORD Capsuleer Pilot Act. Drifters are rogue entities. They don't possess any license or registration as either an independent capsule pilot or a navy vessel of a member state. They are therefore an external entity and their crossing over into our territory is a breach of our sovereign space. Their construction of outposts within our space (including covert sleeper armories and the staging grounds outside the drifters' unstable wormholes) is done without paying for local starbase charters, which are legally required for building structures in high security space. And they open fire on anyone who warps to their illegal staging grounds. During all of this, they conduct invasive scans of our ships, stations, and stargates.

When a foreign navy enters another nation's airspace, it is considered an act of aggression. Capsuleers are given free movement by treaties, the drifters are not. Even if they never fired a weapon, they are still violating our sovereign space with armadas of heavily armed warships and surveillance craft. The empires have a right to defend their sovereign space against threats, and the drifters are a threat.

Whether they fired first at Sarum Prime is irrelevant. I'm telling you they did, but even if they didn't, it wouldn't matter. Amarr believes them to be a threat to our sovereignty. That is what matters. Our space, our decision. Whatever doubt there might have possibly been was removed the second the commanders of the Amarr Navy Third and Throne Worlds Fleet ordered us to engage.

They're our enemy. The end.
Rytha Main
Defensores Fidei
#22 - 2015-07-01 02:35:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Rytha Main
Samira Kernher wrote:

They're our enemy. The end.


The question is asked "Why Amarr?"

We are the largest, oldest of the Empires, made even larger still with Ammatar and Khanid under the banner of Great Amarria.

Of the four Empires, the first to re-deploy Stargate technology, the first to develop cynosural technology, the first to live righteously before God, the first in the science race to release third tier destroyers, the first and only Empire to extend it's governance to whole regions of Null-Security space via capsuleer loyalist organizations, and we have God who unites us.

As Cardinal Dex so aptly put it: "They target Holy Amarr because they see us as the greatest threat to their evil plans".

They are not our enemy. They are the enemy of all mankind. And we are the vanguard which will prevent them from sweeping across the cluster defeating the rest. We, Amarr, will defeat them, and thus be saviors of all.

They come for us, and God smites them, that our holy lasers might bring them low, and lay waste to their unholy Armada.

They collect bodies no doubt for profane purposes, and aggress an unprovoked gathering of loyalists, to which an estimated 80,000 people perished.

Were it any other loyalist gathering that they pounced upon... the tragedy would have been more grave. But such faithless creatures do not know the Will of God: Amarr Invincible.

We will be criticized, doubted, and mocked for our beliefs... all while small minds forget... that we stood against them, and prevailed.

Keep the faith Sister Kernher, for our God is with us.
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2015-07-01 09:15:57 UTC
Rytha Main wrote:
Samira Kernher wrote:

They're our enemy. The end.


The question is asked "Why Amarr?"

We are the largest, oldest of the Empires, made even larger still with Ammatar and Khanid under the banner of Great Amarria.

Of the four Empires, the first to re-deploy Stargate technology, the first to develop cynosural technology, the first to live righteously before God, the first in the science race to release third tier destroyers, the first and only Empire to extend it's governance to whole regions of Null-Security space via capsuleer loyalist organizations, and we have God who unites us.

As Cardinal Dex so aptly put it: "They target Holy Amarr because they see us as the greatest threat to their evil plans".

They are not our enemy. They are the enemy of all mankind. And we are the vanguard which will prevent them from sweeping across the cluster defeating the rest. We, Amarr, will defeat them, and thus be saviors of all.

They come for us, and God smites them, that our holy lasers might bring them low, and lay waste to their unholy Armada.

They collect bodies no doubt for profane purposes, and aggress an unprovoked gathering of loyalists, to which an estimated 80,000 people perished.

Were it any other loyalist gathering that they pounced upon... the tragedy would have been more grave. But such faithless creatures do not know the Will of God: Amarr Invincible.

We will be criticized, doubted, and mocked for our beliefs... all while small minds forget... that we stood against them, and prevailed.

Keep the faith Sister Kernher, for our God is with us.


None of that actually answers the question.

The Empires have roughly equal power hence the status quo in the cluster (other than the Faction War opiate for the armed militia masses).

All Empires construct and use the technologies you mention. Thinking that they would ignore all others because Amarr scientists developed something first is pure folly, it makes no sense whatsoever.

You belief in God? It's entirely possible that is the cause of the attack if the Drifters have a religion and they too believe that theirs is the only true God. Throughout history (and way back into legends and myths) religions have been the cause of so much animosity that I don't discount that idea. Yet it seems something more, other races have their own religions and beliefs yet have not been singled out.

What if this is a response to the plundering of Sleeper technology for Tech III items and DUST bunnies? This would not make the Drifters evil but rather responding to a clear and present danger to their existence. However again this has been carried out by all Empires so does not sit comfortably as an explanation for their fixation on the Amarr.

Your pride in the victory you achieved is earned and deserved but bear in mind you outnumbered them, they showed poor tactical awareness and fleet command, and most importantly they were already weakened by some means as yet unknown.

We know that they learn from each encounter and evolve to combat their weaknesses. Next time may well prove a different matter. It is unwise to single yourselves out as the only people capable of stopping this threat as it is highly unlikely to be true and entirely possible that you will at some point require assistance from those who you dismiss.

I feel there is something deeper going on here and am merely trying to encourage others to think around the issue, to try to determine the Drifters cause so that we as a cluster can avoid unnecessary bloodshed or if need be unite against a greater threat.
Lydia Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#24 - 2015-07-01 22:12:17 UTC
If the Drifters showed up in Federation space they would have been offered to join it .

Michael Pawlicki
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry.
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#25 - 2015-07-01 23:40:08 UTC
Lydia Wolfhammer wrote:
If the Drifters showed up in Federation space they would have been offered to join it .


This is indeed true, unless some Hawks decided they were Caldari, then we'd be in some ****.
Rytha Main
Defensores Fidei
#26 - 2015-07-19 08:14:37 UTC
This is precisely what I saw at the Drifter Ballteship Armada invasion:

https://i.imgur.com/624JhlC.jpg

It started out as this "luminesce" which then quickly expanded outward in a violent and almost blinding light.

It was after 2 or 3 of these discharges that the Drifter Ballteships were weakened considerably, and lost either their primary or secondary shielding (they instead had one layer of shielding instead of two).

God's blessing upon the Empress, perhaps she was present at the Amarrian gathering incognito, and chose to act when threats to her flock were made clear.

God guide us all.
Kontrahage
Perkone
Caldari State
#27 - 2015-07-19 11:21:08 UTC
Rytha Main wrote:
This is precisely what I saw at the Drifter Ballteship Armada invasion:

https://i.imgur.com/624JhlC.jpg

It started out as this "luminesce" which then quickly expanded outward in a violent and almost blinding light.

It was after 2 or 3 of these discharges that the Drifter Ballteships were weakened considerably, and lost either their primary or secondary shielding (they instead had one layer of shielding instead of two).

God's blessing upon the Empress, perhaps she was present at the Amarrian gathering incognito, and chose to act when threats to her flock were made clear.

God guide us all.


This phenomenon was witnessed by others in Safizon local yesterday.
While I did not see it as my focus was to the other direction I heard the same strange sound
as during the Second Battle of Mekhios.
Frenjo Borkstar
Doomheim
#28 - 2015-07-19 17:14:43 UTC
A few days after the attack occured, I scanned the battlefield several times and there was no evidence of any residual weapon signatures, in fact no evidence of anything apart from a lot of wreckage and solar radiation.

This requires further investigation into what exactly the light was.

Viriel,

Borkstar Laboratories,

The Borkstar Initiative.

Kahar Dex
Imperial Dreams
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#29 - 2015-07-20 04:18:45 UTC
Frenjo Borkstar wrote:
A few days after the attack occured, I scanned the battlefield several times and there was no evidence of any residual weapon signatures, in fact no evidence of anything apart from a lot of wreckage and solar radiation.

This requires further investigation into what exactly the light was.



Two possibilities:

1) The Empress possesses a weapon of advanced technology by which current scanning technology is not able to address/recognize
2) This is the untraceable hand of God or a manifestation of the Seraphim

With the images captured from Safizon, as well as testimony from other pilots, Lt. Main's assertions are now well grounded.

There is something magnificent about our Empress, and not once... but twice battles fought in her name, have resulted in resounding victory for God's chosen.

This must give all faithful pause, as we consider the blessedness of our ability to be part of God's work and the wonders we are seeing.

His Eminence Cardinal Kahar Dex of the CVA and Imperial Dreams. Follow The Cardinal: @kahardex

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