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New Ship Class - Fast Response Frigate - Hellcat

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Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#21 - 2015-06-29 10:26:15 UTC
sigh
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#22 - 2015-06-29 10:50:01 UTC
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#23 - 2015-06-29 13:45:22 UTC
I like it in theory.

That theory being that fast response frigates are a thing. Like interceptors fit for combat....

I cannot stress how broken, wrong and unfun this sort of a ship would be if anyone were to implement it as you propose.

Talking more,

Flying crazier,

And drinking more

Making battleships worth the warp
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#24 - 2015-06-29 15:24:39 UTC
James Baboli wrote:
I like it in theory.

That theory being that fast response frigates are a thing. Like interceptors fit for combat....

I cannot stress how broken, wrong and unfun this sort of a ship would be if anyone were to implement it as you propose.


To be fairly honest, it would be the funniest **** for about five minutes, but yeah then it would be the worst thing imaginable. This could only possibly work for an "last day Eve servers are up" event or maybe a test server shenanigans thing with no intent to release on TQ.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#25 - 2015-06-29 17:58:45 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
I think that a Fast Response Frigate is necessary to help defend miners across all New Eden from null to .5 Sec Space. Given that ganking occurs at gates and belts the typical frigate or destroyer does not have enough response time to either drive away or destroy Privateers. Therefore I am suggesting that ORE develop the Hellcat to help counter the Privateering.

The Hellcat, which is based off of an old Earth tank destroyer from World War II was the fastest tank destroyer for that era which performed when compared to kill / loss ratio.

The base hull design would be taken from the Prospect Class Expedition Frigate with the forward arms removed to reduce mass.

4 high slots
4 medium slots
3 low slots
2 small rig slots

The Hellcat would incorporate the new hybrid Warp Accelerator with the Micro Jump Drive named the Micro Accelerator Jump Drive which when fit to the Hellcat would add an additional Warp Speed bonus of 20,000,000 million kilometers per level of the skilled learned which would allow the unit an increase of warp speed velocity by 33%.

It's high warp speed and high velocity of 500 m/3 with Micro Warp Drive fit would make this ship more than a match for any frigate or destroyer that is caught pirating.

5% damage bonus to any type of weapon fit per level of the Hellcat trained to.
5% optimal range for any weapon type fit per level of the Hellcat trained to.


15% bonus to rocket damage.
10% bonus to rocket optimal range.

2% bonus to shields and armor per level of Hellcat trained to.

Possible implementation of Precision Guided Bombs and new Precision Guided Bomb Launcher that could only be used on the Hellcat. Cannot be used in High Sec Space

Possible implementation of Frigate based torpedo and torpedo launcher.

Possible implementation of Cynosural Generator.

Possible implementation of Web Stasisfier Nullifier Rig that would nullify the ability of the ship to be webbed. 10% reduction in web stasisfying effect per level of Hellcat trained to.

Would retain the warp while cloaked capability of the Prospect.

With ganking on gates in the belts and general pirating continuing to be an everyday issue a small versatile ship is needed




A bonus of ~0,1 AU per level seems incredibly low, no one would ever use your confusingly named new module. Or modules, it's not really clear.

Your ideas in general are not very clear, because your ideas are a jumbled mess not working very well together. In bizzaro world, where CCP made your crazy ship, countless miners will be slaughtered by this ship. Because surprise, surprise: If a ship is totally overpowered, a lot of people will use it. See also Ishtar.

The idea of some sort of negative bonus against webs sounds interesting, at least. Everything else is just dumb, though.
Brandi Wiseman
Den Sorte Loge
#26 - 2015-06-29 18:51:36 UTC
I think it needs an additional high slot

Fly Caldari!
Alundil
Rolled Out
#27 - 2015-06-30 05:49:38 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
Been a while since I tripped across an 'it can kill everything make my ship the best' thread, thank you . . . I needed the laugh.

m

Great!!

Now this thread has CSM tag legitimacy. What have you done Azariah? What have you done?

I'm right behind you
412nv Yaken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#28 - 2015-07-01 04:35:18 UTC  |  Edited by: 412nv Yaken
I prefer the scissor technique for stopping ganks.

Can you please elaborate to the readers the masterful technique

A True Champion of High Security Space
Alundil
Rolled Out
#29 - 2015-07-02 04:01:11 UTC
412nv Yaken wrote:
I prefer the scissor technique for stopping ganks.

Can you please elaborate to the readers the masterful technique

that is when two "svipuls" are in prop mode and their "models" clip together.....uh I'll be in my bunk

I'm right behind you
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2015-07-02 05:06:04 UTC
This ship is completely unnecessary. A new player with a day's training can get into a T1 frigate and be more than sufficient in PVP.

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#31 - 2015-07-02 19:08:12 UTC
and what, pray tell, happens when the gankers start using this ship?

For posting an idea into F&I: come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it..... If your idea can be abused, it [u]WILL[/u] be.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#32 - 2015-07-02 19:20:54 UTC
Xe'Cara'eos wrote:
and what, pray tell, happens when the gankers start using this ship?


He forgot to mention they have negative resistance against civilian weapons so you can counter them with an Ibis.
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2015-07-02 19:56:06 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Xe'Cara'eos wrote:
and what, pray tell, happens when the gankers start using this ship?


He forgot to mention they have negative resistance against civilian weapons so you can counter them with an Ibis.


Don't you go hating on my Velator you Caldari supremacist!

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#34 - 2015-07-03 06:18:35 UTC
Owen Levanth wrote:
DrysonBennington wrote:
I think that a Fast Response Frigate is necessary to help defend miners across all New Eden from null to .5 Sec Space. Given that ganking occurs at gates and belts the typical frigate or destroyer does not have enough response time to either drive away or destroy Privateers. Therefore I am suggesting that ORE develop the Hellcat to help counter the Privateering.

The Hellcat, which is based off of an old Earth tank destroyer from World War II was the fastest tank destroyer for that era which performed when compared to kill / loss ratio.

The base hull design would be taken from the Prospect Class Expedition Frigate with the forward arms removed to reduce mass.

4 high slots
4 medium slots
3 low slots
2 small rig slots

The Hellcat would incorporate the new hybrid Warp Accelerator with the Micro Jump Drive named the Micro Accelerator Jump Drive which when fit to the Hellcat would add an additional Warp Speed bonus of 20,000,000 million kilometers per level of the skilled learned which would allow the unit an increase of warp speed velocity by 33%.

It's high warp speed and high velocity of 500 m/3 with Micro Warp Drive fit would make this ship more than a match for any frigate or destroyer that is caught pirating.

5% damage bonus to any type of weapon fit per level of the Hellcat trained to.
5% optimal range for any weapon type fit per level of the Hellcat trained to.


15% bonus to rocket damage.
10% bonus to rocket optimal range.

2% bonus to shields and armor per level of Hellcat trained to.

Possible implementation of Precision Guided Bombs and new Precision Guided Bomb Launcher that could only be used on the Hellcat. Cannot be used in High Sec Space

Possible implementation of Frigate based torpedo and torpedo launcher.

Possible implementation of Cynosural Generator.

Possible implementation of Web Stasisfier Nullifier Rig that would nullify the ability of the ship to be webbed. 10% reduction in web stasisfying effect per level of Hellcat trained to.

Would retain the warp while cloaked capability of the Prospect.

With ganking on gates in the belts and general pirating continuing to be an everyday issue a small versatile ship is needed




A bonus of ~0,1 AU per level seems incredibly low, no one would ever use your confusingly named new module. Or modules, it's not really clear.

Your ideas in general are not very clear, because your ideas are a jumbled mess not working very well together. In bizzaro world, where CCP made your crazy ship, countless miners will be slaughtered by this ship. Because surprise, surprise: If a ship is totally overpowered, a lot of people will use it. See also Ishtar.

The idea of some sort of negative bonus against webs sounds interesting, at least. Everything else is just dumb, though.


It only sounds dumb because that is the Jovian Virus that has infected your brain and is slowly eating your cogitative skills.
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#35 - 2015-07-03 11:10:44 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
DrysonBennington wrote:
I think that a Fast Response Frigate is necessary to help defend miners across all New Eden from null to .5 Sec Space. Given that ganking occurs at gates and belts the typical frigate or destroyer does not have enough response time to either drive away or destroy Privateers. Therefore I am suggesting that ORE develop the Hellcat to help counter the Privateering.

The Hellcat, which is based off of an old Earth tank destroyer from World War II was the fastest tank destroyer for that era which performed when compared to kill / loss ratio.

The base hull design would be taken from the Prospect Class Expedition Frigate with the forward arms removed to reduce mass.

4 high slots
4 medium slots
3 low slots
2 small rig slots

The Hellcat would incorporate the new hybrid Warp Accelerator with the Micro Jump Drive named the Micro Accelerator Jump Drive which when fit to the Hellcat would add an additional Warp Speed bonus of 20,000,000 million kilometers per level of the skilled learned which would allow the unit an increase of warp speed velocity by 33%.

It's high warp speed and high velocity of 500 m/3 with Micro Warp Drive fit would make this ship more than a match for any frigate or destroyer that is caught pirating.

5% damage bonus to any type of weapon fit per level of the Hellcat trained to.
5% optimal range for any weapon type fit per level of the Hellcat trained to.


15% bonus to rocket damage.
10% bonus to rocket optimal range.

2% bonus to shields and armor per level of Hellcat trained to.

Possible implementation of Precision Guided Bombs and new Precision Guided Bomb Launcher that could only be used on the Hellcat. Cannot be used in High Sec Space

Possible implementation of Frigate based torpedo and torpedo launcher.

Possible implementation of Cynosural Generator.

Possible implementation of Web Stasisfier Nullifier Rig that would nullify the ability of the ship to be webbed. 10% reduction in web stasisfying effect per level of Hellcat trained to.

Would retain the warp while cloaked capability of the Prospect.

With ganking on gates in the belts and general pirating continuing to be an everyday issue a small versatile ship is needed




A bonus of ~0,1 AU per level seems incredibly low, no one would ever use your confusingly named new module. Or modules, it's not really clear.

Your ideas in general are not very clear, because your ideas are a jumbled mess not working very well together. In bizzaro world, where CCP made your crazy ship, countless miners will be slaughtered by this ship. Because surprise, surprise: If a ship is totally overpowered, a lot of people will use it. See also Ishtar.

The idea of some sort of negative bonus against webs sounds interesting, at least. Everything else is just dumb, though.


It only sounds dumb because that is the Jovian Virus that has infected your brain and is slowly eating your cogitative skills.



It's "cognitive" skills, thank you very much.

Also based on your posts, I think I should tell you this:

Please stop making useless troll-threads here.
Nyalnara
Marauder Initiative
#36 - 2015-07-03 11:16:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Nyalnara
To report or not to report this thread, that is the question... Roll



Nope, too bored. Let's just watch it burn...

French half-noob.

Non, je ne suis pas gentil.
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