EVE General Discussion

That said, would it not then be more likely that you just don't get these changes rather than the changes lacking any inherent logic?

I think there is no real hope left.
They come up with a stupid change, decide they must push it forward. Get a lot of rage and then look for the closest compromise to their objective in order to say, "We listened to our players"
Meanwhile, we bleed players because a lot of people are still annoyed.

I think you meant "The real Jen" , because of this important principle.

Ah but your name is a farce, a little pun. So, not a genuine Jen at all.

Confessor,svipul,ishtar.

I really hope you understand how this stuff actually works, but probably not by this post, as i'm on lunch at work, my back hurts, i'm tired of typing in ip address into remote managament interfaces, i'll take the troll bait.

Typically things go this way:

EP and SR eve staff get together and set a general direction for where eve is going.

Based on mgmt style, this cna either be with alot of hand holding and micro managament or

and this is what i think Seagulls style is, you paint a broad brush and allow your dev's to fill in the neuance.

ex: We are going to make new space that has this basic feature... what do we need to get there?

well x.. y and z need to be fixed, we could add a, b, c...

ok fix x y z.. i like a.. b and c not so much. Start on that.

Sr poroducers go back to there teams and give them the basic projects. So like "ok we need to fix sov.. how can we do it?"

then that is passed down to a team of devs who work on it. One person of that team is who post on the forums and is the 'face'

Smaller changes, that have nothing to do witht he braod scheme can be either just added (i.e. a tweek here or there) or picthce dot the larger team as a whole.

Fozzie doenst control ANY of the changes. He's part of the decision process, but ideas come form his team. You have to rememebr the corp mind set, alot of people don;t work stuff through. you see it all the time, a company pitches an idea, it sounds amazing, they waste alot of money on it, only to have it hit focus groups and find out that, noi, the idea they just spend 20m on sucks balls.

Blaming fozzie is counter productive and utterly stupid. Esp as they have the data and you don't. you could say "this sucks" and they will look at there data and go "no this data says you are wrong, sorry"

So OP stop being stupid. If you have a LEGIT issue with something, post in the correct thread EXACTLY why you think its stupid, be percise, constructive, and non whiny. But remember, ccp has more information then you do. So they could easily say 'erm no.. you are wrong' that doens;t make fozzie or greyscale or anyone else who made what players thing were bad choicces wrong, or stupid, or whatever other insult you want. It merely means the information they had was not applicable with put in the real world.

So again, don;t post stupid threqads that make you look stupid. Because maybe next time you have information that could stop a lame change, but when you say it, people will look at you like the guy on the corner screaming the world is ending, and only now it will will.

(to lazy to spell check, back hurts, learn reaperese)

oh and reported for dev abuse

thats your opinion. I have not had any real issues with any of the current changes. Fozzie sov i am willing to wait till after phase 3 is done to fully gage success or failure.

And it snot all his team, he just happens to be one of the 'faces' of eve, thus he gets to announce changesm they may not be all his doing. Kinda like CCP Ovure when eve was new pretty much announced everything. and he was not really on any team