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Wynta
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-06-24 21:54:27 UTC
Coming from another post on salvaging and the Marauders, I noticed that Industrial Drones are sort of in this weird semi-implemented state where they are useful but not fully fleshed out.

My suggestion is to to add both additional drone sizes, hull bonuses, or support skills that affect these types of drones.

For the Salvage Drone, I suggest either 3 sizes (Small, Medium, Large), and/or simply a T2.

Right now the Salvage Drone I is 3% base success chance plus 2% per level in Salvage Drone Operation.

My suggestion is this....

Drone Type : Base Salvage Chance + Salvage Drone Operation V Chance | Bandwidth

Small Salvage Drone I: 7%+10% | 5 Bandwidth
Small Salvage Drone II: 11%+10% | 5
Medium SD I: 15%+10% | 10
Medium SD II:19%+10% | 10
Heavy SD I: 23%+10% | 25
Heavy SD II: 27%+10% | 25

There would then be an Industrial that would be focused on Drone Salvaging based on the Noctis Hull, or just adding a drone bonus to the Noctis hull.

125 Bandwidth

ORE Industrial bonuses (per skill level):
20% bonus to Salvage Drone hitpoints and max velocity
15% bonus to Salvage Drone success chance
5000m bonus to Drone operation Range

Role Bonus:
90% reduction to effective distance traveled for jump fatigue


Mining Drones would get similar treatment.

They would have T1/T2 versions in Small, Medium, Large

There would be a Drone Mining bonused hull with 125 bandwidth.

1 or 2 of the Mining Barges would get 50 bandwidth

And the mining frigates would have 10-25 bandwidth.






And lastly Tractor Drones...

Can be targeted to a specific target like a normal tractor beam or be like a MTU and start pulling in the closest wrecks, looting directly into your cargo bay. These would be in 1 or 2 sizes. If 5 are deployed they each search out their own target if set on automatic. They are 15-20% slower than a normal MTU.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2015-06-24 22:01:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiddle Jr
coming from another thread about wrecks size tierization in terms of their EHP that would be logical that small salvage drones can't or have limitations fo salvage battleshipss or bigger hull wrecks.

Rebalance of the Wrecks

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Nyalnara
Marauder Initiative
#3 - 2015-06-24 23:07:41 UTC
Wynta wrote:
There would then be an Industrial that would be focused on Drone Salvaging based on the Noctis Hull, or just adding a drone bonus to the Noctis hull.


T2 Noctis, same base bonus (range and speed for tractors), same layout, but with a drone bay. Would allow for faster site cleaning with 8 tractor beams, & drones to clean everything.

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#4 - 2015-06-24 23:20:16 UTC
I dont mind giving the noctis a salvage drone bonus,

but no to everything else for the reason that autonomy is going to devalue all the professions these touch.

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Wynta
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-06-25 00:49:12 UTC
Daichi Yamato wrote:
I dont mind giving the noctis a salvage drone bonus,

but no to everything else for the reason that autonomy is going to devalue all the professions these touch.


A pure salvage boat is ~4 80% success salvagers, the heavy T2 drone suggestion is i think 35%x 5 drones for the pure salvager. This change will allow those who use drones as secondary damage to use salvage drones instead for a little more loot.
Kenrailae
Scrapyard Artificer's
#6 - 2015-06-25 01:04:00 UTC
Nyalnara wrote:
Wynta wrote:
There would then be an Industrial that would be focused on Drone Salvaging based on the Noctis Hull, or just adding a drone bonus to the Noctis hull.


T2 Noctis, same base bonus (range and speed for tractors), same layout, but with a drone bay. Would allow for faster site cleaning with 8 tractor beams, & drones to clean everything.



Extra mid or two would not be out of place on a T2 hull. But the Noctis itself is already a monster at salvaging. It really doesn't Need help. put down an MTU to help pull stuff in and it's all you can do to keep targets locked sometimes.

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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#7 - 2015-06-25 01:35:51 UTC
Nyalnara wrote:
Wynta wrote:
There would then be an Industrial that would be focused on Drone Salvaging based on the Noctis Hull, or just adding a drone bonus to the Noctis hull.


T2 Noctis, same base bonus (range and speed for tractors), same layout, but with a drone bay. Would allow for faster site cleaning with 8 tractor beams, & drones to clean everything.

Last time I flew my Noctis (Tuesday night of this week here on the US west coast) it had a drones bay that had 5 salvage drones in it. Did they eliminate the drones bay since then?

If not you need to come up with something else to help differentiate between a T1 and a T2 version of the Noctis.

The other thought that occurs to me is this, if you are not even aware that that current Noctis has a drones bay are you in any way qualified to make suggestions on what a T2 variant of the ship should have?
Nyalnara
Marauder Initiative
#8 - 2015-06-25 02:03:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Nyalnara
Donnachadh wrote:
Last time I flew my Noctis (Tuesday night of this week here on the US west coast) it had a drones bay that had 5 salvage drones in it. Did they eliminate the drones bay since then?

If not you need to come up with something else to help differentiate between a T1 and a T2 version of the Noctis.

The other thought that occurs to me is this, if you are not even aware that that current Noctis has a drones bay are you in any way qualified to make suggestions on what a T2 variant of the ship should have?


Sorry, have not used my Noctis since the introduction on salvage drones, that's why i totally forgot it had a drone bay. Been mostly using a paladin, with MTU, salvage drones, additional tractors & salvager. (Because downsizing how much account i pay for.)

French half-noob.

Non, je ne suis pas gentil.
Amarisen Gream
The.Kin.of.Jupiter
#9 - 2015-06-25 07:52:20 UTC
I have been one of many to bring this up before.


- normally shot down by the anti-drone folk.
- and in the two years I have played, I can't think of CCP every making a statement on the topic.

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Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2015-06-25 08:21:22 UTC
Wynta wrote:
Coming from another post on salvaging and the Marauders, I noticed that Industrial Drones are sort of in this weird semi-implemented state where they are useful but not fully fleshed out.

My suggestion is to to add both additional drone sizes, hull bonuses, or support skills that affect these types of drones.

For the Salvage Drone, I suggest either 3 sizes (Small, Medium, Large), and/or simply a T2.

Right now the Salvage Drone I is 3% base success chance plus 2% per level in Salvage Drone Operation.

My suggestion is this....

Drone Type : Base Salvage Chance + Salvage Drone Operation V Chance | Bandwidth

Small Salvage Drone I: 7%+10% | 5 Bandwidth
Small Salvage Drone II: 11%+10% | 5
Medium SD I: 15%+10% | 10
Medium SD II:19%+10% | 10
Heavy SD I: 23%+10% | 25
Heavy SD II: 27%+10% | 25

There would then be an Industrial that would be focused on Drone Salvaging based on the Noctis Hull, or just adding a drone bonus to the Noctis hull.

125 Bandwidth

ORE Industrial bonuses (per skill level):
20% bonus to Salvage Drone hitpoints and max velocity
15% bonus to Salvage Drone success chance
5000m bonus to Drone operation Range

Role Bonus:
90% reduction to effective distance traveled for jump fatigue


Mining Drones would get similar treatment.

They would have T1/T2 versions in Small, Medium, Large

There would be a Drone Mining bonused hull with 125 bandwidth.

1 or 2 of the Mining Barges would get 50 bandwidth

And the mining frigates would have 10-25 bandwidth.






And lastly Tractor Drones...

Can be targeted to a specific target like a normal tractor beam or be like a MTU and start pulling in the closest wrecks, looting directly into your cargo bay. These would be in 1 or 2 sizes. If 5 are deployed they each search out their own target if set on automatic. They are 15-20% slower than a normal MTU.


If your to lazy tu use the Noctis just let the wrecks where they are.

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Petre en Thielles
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-06-25 14:31:15 UTC
Aren't AFK/semi-AFK missioners and miners already industrial drones?