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Super Carriers / Titan lost
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Yossarian Toralen
M and M Enterpises
#21 - 2015-05-06 12:02:31 UTC
Reading EVE related news and reading articles about big alliances shooting or losing big ships, it's to be expected I thought.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#22 - 2015-05-06 12:12:35 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Yeah it's mostly superficial bullcrap that only affects a tiny minority of people ...
... yet it's being blown up in news, because of all the loud, small minds who only look at ISK.

Most do not actually care, because it doesn't affect them.
For many, it is their dream to be in a Titan during a huge fleet fight, doomsdaying ships away, some day.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#23 - 2015-05-06 14:56:29 UTC
Otso Bakarti wrote:
When the economy collapsed (thanks George) we had a spate of yacht fires just out of reach of the fire department's fire boats. It was sad really. Have a huge party. Ferry everyone back in powerboats. Someone happens to knock over a candle on that linen tablecloth - poof! "Guess we'll have to call the insurance agent!" Sad

Rich people can be so naughty.



If you need to insurance fraud your yacht you're not rich.
Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2015-05-06 17:35:55 UTC
Kashadin wrote:
Falken Falcon wrote:
Kashadin wrote:
A thing that almost never sees actual use.
And where do you base this clam, sir



Anecdotal and hearsay almost excursively I have to admit. But you rarely hear about a super/titan going down unless it is either is moving POSes or being sold since from what I understand most NS groups would have a fit if a super/titan pilot used the ship for anything other than specific joint ops or bridges (in the case of the titan)


My anecdotal personal experience suggests otherwise - less than 24 hours ago, for example, Goons dropped three Titans and four supers (along with a couple dreads, a couple carriers, and various subcaps) on an innocent group of noob-corp players. (That's a joke - the noob corp players were neither innocent nor noobs.) And a day before that, Goons dropped an Aeon on that same group of noob copr players in an attempt to save some BLOPS that were in trouble. I have no idea what sort of accountability the Goon Titan/super pilots have to the greater CFC, what sort of approval such an engagement might have required, or what their judgment was regarding the level of risk to their Titans and supers - but they DO get used. (At least in the elite-PvP lands of Syndicate - I have no experience with the carebear lands of sov null. Wink wink.) Alas, all the noob corp players were able to take down was a couple carriers and a dread. No super kills.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#25 - 2015-05-06 18:00:42 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Keep seeing these stuff posted on eve raleted news services. And wonder if it's still worth of public attention?



It was worth some attention when the loss of a Mothership constituted a quarter of the supers in the entire game.

These days the loss of one means the fleet goes down by less than one tenth of one percent. Not the least bit noteworthy. When something is rare that's one thing, but capitals are as common as dirt these days. So one exploding is pretty much not worth the time it takes to write the battle report.

Mr Epeen Cool
Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#26 - 2015-05-06 18:44:27 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Otso Bakarti wrote:
When the economy collapsed (thanks George) we had a spate of yacht fires just out of reach of the fire department's fire boats. It was sad really. Have a huge party. Ferry everyone back in powerboats. Someone happens to knock over a candle on that linen tablecloth - poof! "Guess we'll have to call the insurance agent!" Sad

Rich people can be so naughty.



If you need to insurance fraud your yacht you're not rich.
Bingo.

There just isn't anything that can be said!
Ashlar Maidstone
MoonFyre BattleGroup Holdings
#27 - 2015-05-07 17:44:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Ashlar Maidstone
@OP, hi there, Let me first say that at anytime an article from one of the reputable news sites goes up, then take that article for what it's worth. As you know there's been a recent rise of losses from carriers up to the titans yes, and one reason being is because they cost billions of isk to get even just the hull alone.

throw in the fittings, rigs, subsystems then the cost goes up tremendously. Even the pilot may have some very expensive implants and those are accounted along with the over all cost for one ship.

As mentioned already some of these moves by solo pilots are inexcusable to the 10th degree plus.
Kashadin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#28 - 2015-05-07 17:53:13 UTC
Eli Stan wrote:
Kashadin wrote:
Falken Falcon wrote:
Kashadin wrote:
A thing that almost never sees actual use.
And where do you base this clam, sir



Anecdotal and hearsay almost excursively I have to admit. But you rarely hear about a super/titan going down unless it is either is moving POSes or being sold since from what I understand most NS groups would have a fit if a super/titan pilot used the ship for anything other than specific joint ops or bridges (in the case of the titan)


My anecdotal personal experience suggests otherwise - less than 24 hours ago, for example, Goons dropped three Titans and four supers (along with a couple dreads, a couple carriers, and various subcaps) on an innocent group of noob-corp players. (That's a joke - the noob corp players were neither innocent nor noobs.) And a day before that, Goons dropped an Aeon on that same group of noob copr players in an attempt to save some BLOPS that were in trouble. I have no idea what sort of accountability the Goon Titan/super pilots have to the greater CFC, what sort of approval such an engagement might have required, or what their judgment was regarding the level of risk to their Titans and supers - but they DO get used. (At least in the elite-PvP lands of Syndicate - I have no experience with the carebear lands of sov null. Wink wink.) Alas, all the noob corp players were able to take down was a couple carriers and a dread. No super kills.



Honestly I have never even seen a titan in game, I was mostly talking from the experience of reading a lot of the reports and stuff that comes from them being blown up.

And I was mostly talking about how you will never see a titan out of a POS unless the alliance is in on the event, and I would say that saving a BLOPS fleet or blobbing some guys with a carrier/dread fleet on the side of the Titan would probably mean that someone with some sort of authority authorized the titan to go in lol.
Tiddle Jr
Monkey Foot Distribution
Monkey Foot
#29 - 2015-06-22 13:23:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiddle Jr
Double post

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Tiddle Jr
Monkey Foot Distribution
Monkey Foot
#30 - 2015-06-22 13:26:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiddle Jr
Ashlar Maidstone wrote:
@OP, hi there, Let me first say that at anytime an article from one of the reputable news sites goes up, then take that article for what it's worth. As you know there's been a recent rise of losses from carriers up to the titans yes, and one reason being is because they cost billions of isk to get even just the hull alone.

throw in the fittings, rigs, subsystems then the cost goes up tremendously. Even the pilot may have some very expensive implants and those are accounted along with the over all cost for one ship.

As mentioned already some of these moves by solo pilots are inexcusable to the 10th degree plus.


Yes but pod loss is not included into the ship's lost. And not sure about subssytems you've mentioned.

How about JFs those are expensive as well and we saw them pop on a daily bases but it's not that popular as a supers.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#31 - 2015-06-22 20:59:30 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Keep seeing these stuff posted on eve raleted news services. And wonder if it's still worth of public attention?

One group lost super to another due to stupidity or perfect trap, so what? Dozen of Freighters and JF's are poping daily not a single word about it.

Or is that just a value factor?


no, your post is of no use

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Tiddle Jr
Monkey Foot Distribution
Monkey Foot
#32 - 2015-06-22 21:22:10 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:



no, your post is of no use


i thought you more interested in when those ships will be allowed in high sec Roll

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Hiyora Akachi
Izia Freight Limited
#33 - 2015-06-23 03:44:07 UTC
Because

DEATH TO ALL SUPERS
Pryce Caesar
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2015-06-23 04:19:35 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Impressive, 9 sc's killed for the last 5 days. It's like two ships per day. Shocked


Just goes to show how savage a place Null-Sec is. Not even the mighty Capital Ships are safe there.
Tiddle Jr
Monkey Foot Distribution
Monkey Foot
#35 - 2015-06-23 05:33:35 UTC
Pryce Caesar wrote:
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Impressive, 9 sc's killed for the last 5 days. It's like two ships per day. Shocked


Just goes to show how savage a place Null-Sec is. Not even the mighty Capital Ships are safe there.


Most of them being hunted in low sec.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Varathius
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#36 - 2015-06-23 10:04:15 UTC
People watch killboards?
Tiddle Jr
Monkey Foot Distribution
Monkey Foot
#37 - 2015-06-23 10:35:50 UTC
Varathius wrote:
People watch killboards?



i'm only track them via "Supers Do Die" and watching articles at eve24/tmc

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
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