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Rumors of the new server

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#21 - 2015-06-22 18:21:44 UTC
The mark of a great April Fools day joke is when people still believe it in June.






Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

stoicfaux
#22 - 2015-06-22 18:37:57 UTC  |  Edited by: stoicfaux
Carbon Red wrote:
Hello,

I have read (somewhere, I cant find the source) that CCCP plans to start a new, fresh server in the future. Is this true? Are there any official info sources?

Thank you!

CCCP? You mean the Russian EVE server to comply with the Russian requirement of keeping all citizen's data in country?

No, we don't go there because politics... Also Ravenholm...


I, for one, will miss our Cyrillic text locals.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2015-06-22 22:12:08 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Yes! There will be ponies and rainbows. It will be powered by kittens instead of hamsters.


I got Myself Ready for that

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP

Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2015-06-22 22:14:37 UTC
Carbon Red wrote:
Hello,

I have read (somewhere, I cant find the source) that CCP plans to start a new, fresh server in the future. Is this true? Are there any official info sources?

Thank you!



i'm surprised you didn't link that screenshot

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP

Marsha Mallow
#25 - 2015-06-22 22:27:17 UTC
Aralyn Cormallen wrote:
Elenahina wrote:
rampant inflation


Do I spot a "Goons are fat" joke? Straight

It's not a joke Straight
That's the... hrm nvm

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day

Ellegos1
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2015-06-23 00:04:31 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
The mark of a great April Fools day joke is when people still believe it in June.








It's beautiful, isn't it?

- Lego
Cyborg Girl86
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2015-06-23 00:50:34 UTC
Carbon Red wrote:
Hello,

I have read (somewhere, I cant find the source) that CCCP plans to start a new, fresh server in the future. Is this true? Are there any official info sources?

Thank you!


The Russians are making a new, fresh-tasting server?

Wait?...CCCP??

OMG Soviet Union smash America!?
Carbon Red
Doomheim
#28 - 2015-06-23 07:53:06 UTC
Lol

Yes, I made a typo.

No, I do not "believed" in it. I posed a question, which is an expression of doubt. And doubt is the opposite of faith/belief.

I saw the screenshot someday in May and it didn't crossed my mind to check the date for April fools. And as I read about the new Legacy server in Everquest - Ragefire, where the progression and the whole lifetime of the game could be experienced from fresh, I remembered the Eve article. So I asked.

I know that by many veterans the idea of starting fresh is horrendous. Especially with a real time based skill system as Eve has. But my best time in online gaming was always at the beginnings of the game, be it WoW, GW2, SWToR or few other I have the pleasure to experience.

Well, nevermind, back to the vast fields of veldspars! Blink
Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2015-06-23 08:13:58 UTC
Carbon Red wrote:
Lol

Yes, I made a typo.

No, I do not "believed" in it. I posed a question, which is an expression of doubt. And doubt is the opposite of faith/belief.

I saw the screenshot someday in May and it didn't crossed my mind to check the date for April fools. And as I read about the new Legacy server in Everquest - Ragefire, where the progression and the whole lifetime of the game could be experienced from fresh, I remembered the Eve article. So I asked.

I know that by many veterans the idea of starting fresh is horrendous. Especially with a real time based skill system as Eve has. But my best time in online gaming was always at the beginnings of the game, be it WoW, GW2, SWToR or few other I have the pleasure to experience.

Well, nevermind, back to the vast fields of veldspars! Blink

While I'm sure some people would be crushed because of their SP, I think the bigger reason is that Tranquility has been the stage our great space drama has unfolded on for the last decade, there's history everywhere you look. I live in Genesis, which once upon a time was home to THE trade hub in New Eden, Yulai. Due to some gates being removed/rerouted (I think? don't remember the exact change) trade ended up shifting to Jita, which became even more monstrous than it's predecessor.

Providence is well known for being one of the few (only?) parts of nullsec that operate under NRDS (Not Red Don't Shoot) instead of the more common NBSI (Not Blue Shoot It), that's all to do with the people that live there, and have lived there for a long time.

Or how about Amamake? When I started last year it was full to the brim with Pandemic Legion, they even have a Statue in orbit somewhere, then they up and left after quite a few years there.

Just 3 examples off the top of my head. Even in 1 year New Eden has changed, but it's 'organic' change due to the ebb and flow of super serious space politics, not because a Dev pressed a reset button.

That's why people say reseting EVE would kill it, one of the big selling points is that what you do in New Eden matters and has influence, big or small, on the future of the game world.

Grrr.

Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#30 - 2015-06-23 08:53:10 UTC
I can't believe the Soviets are back in business!

There just isn't anything that can be said!

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#31 - 2015-06-23 09:05:07 UTC
Carbon Red wrote:
I cant argue with the intelligence part. I was expected a honest and short answer (Yes/No, if yes a possible link) in an gaming forum, which isn't a smart thing to do nowadays. So yes, I am not a very smart man. :) But creativity? That part left me baffled.
possible link

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Carbon Red
Doomheim
#32 - 2015-06-23 10:00:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Carbon Red
Azda Ja wrote:

While I'm sure some people would be crushed because of their SP, I think the bigger reason is that Tranquility has been the stage our great space drama has unfolded on for the last decade, there's history everywhere you look. I live in Genesis, which once upon a time was home to THE trade hub in New Eden, Yulai. Due to some gates being removed/rerouted (I think? don't remember the exact change) trade ended up shifting to Jita, which became even more monstrous than it's predecessor.

Providence is well known for being one of the few (only?) parts of nullsec that operate under NRDS (Not Red Don't Shoot) instead of the more common NBSI (Not Blue Shoot It), that's all to do with the people that live there, and have lived there for a long time.

Or how about Amamake? When I started last year it was full to the brim with Pandemic Legion, they even have a Statue in orbit somewhere, then they up and left after quite a few years there.

Just 3 examples off the top of my head. Even in 1 year New Eden has changed, but it's 'organic' change due to the ebb and flow of super serious space politics, not because a Dev pressed a reset button.

That's why people say reseting EVE would kill it, one of the big selling points is that what you do in New Eden matters and has influence, big or small, on the future of the game world.


Listing reasons why NO is as meaningful as listing reasons why YES. Examples - New server means influx of new players (it is a great PR), bigger game activity (at least at start), and of course new drama. It is up to the reader to give more/less weight to these arguments. Its purely subjective.

New server also doesn't mean resetting the old one. Blink
Marcus Gord
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2015-06-23 11:16:32 UTC
Carbon Red wrote:
Hello,

I have read (somewhere, I cant find the source) that CCCP plans to start a new, fresh server in the future. Is this true? Are there any official info sources?

Thank you!


those silly soviets, don't they know the soviet union doesn't exist anymore?

In a few moments you will have an experience that will seem completely real. It will be the result of your subconscious fears transformed to your conscious awareness.

http://i.imgur.com/LM2NKUf.png

TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#34 - 2015-06-23 11:18:38 UTC
How is this still open?

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#35 - 2015-06-23 11:29:07 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
How is this still open?

It's Bronie powered! Roll

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2015-06-23 11:38:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Azda Ja
Carbon Red wrote:
Listing reasons why NO is as meaningful as listing reasons why YES. Examples - New server means influx of new players (it is a great PR), bigger game activity (at least at start), and of course new drama. It is up to the reader to give more/less weight to these arguments. Its purely subjective.

New server also doesn't mean resetting the old one. Blink


Sure, but in this case, "Why bother?" is a more important question that "Why not?" Just like when making suggestions for new features, you have to show us why it's a good idea. The answers in the No column so far carry far more weight. While perhaps there would be more new players (which we can't be sure of TBH given EVE's high turnover rate) they would in no way be 'on an even footing', people who played on Tranquility would be so far ahead of true new players in terms of know how, the illusion of starting from scratch, or being on the same level is just that, an illusion. The vets would still come out on top because they understand the game and it's mechanics.

Bigger game activity is also not a given. The only way that's guaranteed is if your previous statement turns out to be true. Who's to say all the vets from Tranquility would keep playing if the population was suddenly cut in half? Would they even move to the new server?

I doubt there would be much new drama, in fact I think there would be less of it. All the large, established groups would have an even bigger advantage since they already have the 'social infrastructure' to hit the ground running on the new server. They'd leave any new, small groups in the dust in a huge way, far more quickly than on the original server. Most of these large groups were, surprise surprise, much smaller when they began, and their competition was too. Granted, there may be exceptions tat could potentially break through, but let's be real here, the only drama on server 2.0 would be the same drama from the same groups, in an identical, yet eerily different theater.

The player created history of the EVE universe in incredibly important to the health of the game. The fact that EVE is a niche product with a fairly limited audience (compared to other online games), further entrenches this fact. Splitting the EVE population, or wiping the slate clean would kill/severely cripple the game.

Grrr.

Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#37 - 2015-06-23 12:35:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Otso Bakarti
Actually, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, "us" thinking it's a "good idea" doesn't carry as much weight as "we" like to think. CCP did make the mistake of knuckling under to the obnoxiously loud minority ONCE, so I can see how the eager amongst us might think their ill-considered and experienceless notions might be taken seriously. (Then they can brag at the cool kids table "they" made EVE DO something!)

However, I think CCP may be aware "we" are also the ones that think chugging a bottle of skAtch before we log, then playing while balancing a cat on one knee and an ashtray with a hooter in it on the other is "a good idea" as well.

There just isn't anything that can be said!

Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#38 - 2015-06-23 12:38:26 UTC
Carbon Red wrote:
. So yes, I am not a very smart man. :)


Being able to say those words means 2 things.

1. you are smarter than you think

2. you are smarted than 99.9% of General Discussion posters.
Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#39 - 2015-06-23 12:45:45 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Carbon Red wrote:
. So yes, I am not a very smart man. :)


Being able to say those words means 2 things.

1. you are smarter than you think

2. you are smarted than 99.9% of General Discussion posters.

.1 percenter and proud uvvit!

There just isn't anything that can be said!

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#40 - 2015-06-23 17:39:17 UTC
Posting in a thread that has run its course - because someone mentioned kittens.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.

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