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New Trasher a joke?
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Leon Mantis
Limul Tribal
#1 - 2015-06-19 16:16:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Leon Mantis
What is This supposed to be?
Front & Back

It says it is the new design for the Thrasher... but.... really?

My opinion, It is ugly... very ugly
It doesn't even look like a ship made for battle... and totally not worthy of being the new thrasher

Here is a picture of some more earlier designs of the trasher, to my surprise they are all ugly... Choosing the "best" out of all ugly designs is a very bad choice

Thrasher looks good how it is... so i don't understand why ccp has chosen this new design...



Post what you think about this new thrasher....!

Really hoping ccp will throw away this design and come up with a better new Thrasher.

Disappointed.



(edit: Thrasher... not Trasher
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#2 - 2015-06-19 16:17:54 UTC
Don't panic, that's not the Trasher.

It's the Thrasher.

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Pixie Tickle
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2015-06-19 16:18:03 UTC
Trajan Unknown
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-06-19 16:22:07 UTC
Well it is WIP and like every kind of art or design the likes&dislikes are pretty much individual taste.

I personally have no grudge against the new Thrasher but it´s WIP so who knows how it will look in its finalised form?
The old Thrasher on the other hand has it´s charm but I am open for changes. That aside why people pre judge everything so fast? Give some constructive feedback, point out improvements you would make and influence the WIP or else just rant and get the thread closed.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-06-19 16:22:56 UTC
Oh, shiny.
I actually like that new design. Cool

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Black Panpher
CastleKickers
Rote Kapelle
#6 - 2015-06-19 16:31:36 UTC
I like the current Thrasher thanks CCP.
Leon Mantis
Limul Tribal
#7 - 2015-06-19 16:36:36 UTC
Trajan Unknown wrote:
Well it is WIP and like every kind of art or design the likes&dislikes are pretty much individual taste.

I personally have no grudge against the new Thrasher but it´s WIP so who knows how it will look in its finalised form?
The old Thrasher on the other hand has it´s charm but I am open for changes. That aside why people pre judge everything so fast? Give some constructive feedback, point out improvements you would make and influence the WIP or else just rant and get the thread closed.



You make a good point that new things should not be judged to fast, However This Devblog makes me think it is actually a design that has been worked on for at least a little while. And even if it is still a WIP, i actually think its good to know what people think early on so that it can be changed (if Needed) early on aswell.

My feedback? its ugly and not worthy of being the new thrasher..
Points of inprovements... Don't do a totally new design for the thrasher, Keep it oldskool (like ccp did with the Caracal)
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#8 - 2015-06-19 16:40:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Shederov Blood
I'd prefer to see it bear at least some resemblance to the old one. What?

Edit: Some of these look satisfyingly thrasher-like.

Who put the goat in there?
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#9 - 2015-06-19 16:41:14 UTC
Thrasher looked fine to me before but whatever.

BTW these WIP art things don't often change much.

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Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-06-19 16:42:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmy Zeta
Leon Mantis wrote:
Trajan Unknown wrote:
Well it is WIP and like every kind of art or design the likes&dislikes are pretty much individual taste.

I personally have no grudge against the new Thrasher but it´s WIP so who knows how it will look in its finalised form?
The old Thrasher on the other hand has it´s charm but I am open for changes. That aside why people pre judge everything so fast? Give some constructive feedback, point out improvements you would make and influence the WIP or else just rant and get the thread closed.



You make a good point that new things should not be judged to fast, However This Devblog makes me think it is actually a design that has been worked on for at least a little while. And even if it is still a WIP, i actually think its good to know what people think early on so that it can be changed (if Needed) early on aswell.

My feedback? its ugly and not worthy of being the new thrasher..
Points of inprovements... Don't do a totally new design for the thrasher, Keep it oldskool (like ccp did with the Caracal)


Whoa, that new Stiletto looks awesome.
I really like most of these designs, because they confer a sense of the supposed huge size of those ships- the old Thrasher, iconic as it was, simply looked too much like a generic garbage truck.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Lucy Lopez
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2015-06-19 16:42:42 UTC
I like it.
Hra Neuvosto
Party Cat Enterprises
#12 - 2015-06-19 16:47:52 UTC
Looks good, it has more scale.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#13 - 2015-06-19 16:48:32 UTC
Im still recovering from my Incursus'.... operation.





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Paranoid Loyd
#14 - 2015-06-19 16:51:39 UTC
Shederov Blood wrote:
I'd prefer to see it bear at least some resemblance to the old one. What?

It does have wingy bits.

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Trajan Unknown
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2015-06-19 16:54:43 UTC
Leon Mantis wrote:
Trajan Unknown wrote:
Well it is WIP and like every kind of art or design the likes&dislikes are pretty much individual taste.

I personally have no grudge against the new Thrasher but it´s WIP so who knows how it will look in its finalised form?
The old Thrasher on the other hand has it´s charm but I am open for changes. That aside why people pre judge everything so fast? Give some constructive feedback, point out improvements you would make and influence the WIP or else just rant and get the thread closed.



You make a good point that new things should not be judged to fast, However This Devblog makes me think it is actually a design that has been worked on for at least a little while. And even if it is still a WIP, i actually think its good to know what people think early on so that it can be changed (if Needed) early on aswell.

My feedback? its ugly and not worthy of being the new thrasher..
Points of inprovements... Don't do a totally new design for the thrasher, Keep it oldskool (like ccp did with the Caracal)



- Well, they will change the Thrasher that´s a given fact.
- They have some concepts on the table.
- It´s open for changes or improvements as some might say
- Get yourself into the process and let them know what you would change.

I totally agree that everyone should raise his or her voice to give input&feedback on the design but you need to add something to the table that is actually useful else it will be ignored. I did a lot of artwork in the past and it is sometimes really hard to determine what the hell the customer wants and I did commission work mostly so I had to come up with something the customer wants but when the customer doesn´t know what he/she wants it´s a pain in the ass to realise what you should actually work out.

I personally would like to see the Thrasher more rusty and maybe try to keep the old "look" a bit more. The front of the actual/old Thrasher looks a bit like a fish or an amphibian head and keep that style is something I would aim for with the new design.
Erin Crawford
#16 - 2015-06-19 16:57:50 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Oh, shiny.
I actually like that new design. Cool


So do I, very much so in fact.
The scale of the little details is what's awesome!
I like this new direction and hope many more ship will be treated similarly.

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#17 - 2015-06-19 16:59:01 UTC
it looks like in warp the solar fins retract. Thats kinda cool.

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Memphis Baas
#18 - 2015-06-19 17:10:11 UTC
The top part of the ship should be animated with a forward-and-back motion to complete the whole deal, because that, to me, looks like a pair of insects having sexy-time.
Verdis deMosays
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-06-19 17:12:07 UTC
While i like a lot of the redesigns, this one is not acceptable. Not even close. It looks like the old Moa, which is not good for being Minmatar.

Now for the dev-targeted feedback:

1: the humpbacked look is all wrong. The current Thrasher looks like a minnow with an underbite, this looks too far away from that to be called a thrasher.

2: the colors are all wrong. It really does look Caldari, so the new model is pretty much breaking lore for ship design.

3: why does it even need a rework? I know a lot of folks who fly thrasher/sabre, and I've never heard anyone say how they hated the look. If the art department wants input on what to work on, ask on the forums. My short list would be: drake, kestrel and the Imicus. Especially the Imicus, it looks like a hotdog with a kickstand.

Just my thoughts, hopefully it contributes to a better design direction.
Solhild
Doomheim
#20 - 2015-06-19 17:12:32 UTC
Excellent design. I hope it goes out close to the WIP posted. Artists getting much better at this stuff Big smile
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