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Hiding from wardecs.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#61 - 2015-06-16 15:08:26 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:
I wouldnt want to undock in HS during a wardec either. Simply because you cant tell what (how many neutral alts) you're going to face. LowSec or 0.0 on the other hand is a different story.


Nullsec is easy. Shoot first and let the diplos sort out the mess.

This is how I play in highsec too Lol

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Freya Sertan
Doomheim
#62 - 2015-06-16 15:09:38 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:
I wouldnt want to undock in HS during a wardec either. Simply because you cant tell what (how many neutral alts) you're going to face. LowSec or 0.0 on the other hand is a different story.


Meh. So you undock and find a small gang and you proceed to get rekt. Or you find a solo and you get rekt. Or you find a solo and THEY get rekt. Far too many "what ifs" for me to sit and shipspin. I COULD win, and that's what drives me to undock. I couldn't care less if I lost my Rattlesnake on the next undock; it's a chance I take regardless. The chances of losing your ship are just a little raised in a war.

Every time I hear someone offer an excuse as to why they hide from a wardec it just serves to remind me that I play EvE a very different way than some. Thanks for the replies, all.

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Nihta
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#63 - 2015-06-16 15:21:08 UTC
If a day goes by wehre I play EVE and don't lose a ship I likely had a very boring day (Or an extremely good one which is much more rare)
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#64 - 2015-06-16 17:24:10 UTC

Apologies for not poasting this sooner, a complete (simple to follow) guide on how to survive wardecs, without just docking up.

BAZINGA!

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Would you like to know more?
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#65 - 2015-06-16 19:12:44 UTC
The best is when your diplomats are me and Yuller since our ideas of "sort it out" are to make it worse, escalate the situation and otherwise make everything go as badly as possible.

It's even worse if we're both there daring each other to "just dec all of them".
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#66 - 2015-06-17 07:36:08 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
The best is when your diplomats are me and Yuller since our ideas of "sort it out" are to make it worse, escalate the situation and otherwise make everything go as badly as possible.
Confirming they're terrible diplomats Twisted

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Grima The Mad
Ouroboros Solutions
Recursive Horizons
#67 - 2015-06-17 08:04:01 UTC
I've seen this quite a bit since I started playing a couple years ago. Several of the corps I was in had this thing about hiding from war targets, I don't get it either. Especially in high sec, if you can't get away from your war targets you're doing it wrong. The only issue we've really had with our wars is that people don't listen, tell someone to take down a tower, they're lazy, don't expect them to do it. The only issue you could really run into is out of war alts but if you're paying attention that's not even an issue. Also, diplomacy is for the weak and mentally damaged. Just set fire to everything and cook some marshmallows.

I have lost track of what I was doing.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#68 - 2015-06-17 11:08:09 UTC
You know what the problem with wardec corps are. They never camp all alone without support in untanked t3's agressing every bait ship that comes by.

No wait... this does actually happen. Never know till you try I guess

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#69 - 2015-06-18 02:49:21 UTC
If only they often sat in the same spot suspect flagged for hours at a time.

Or had hundreds to thousands or even tens of thousands of other people they're at war with who you could cooperate with.
Rawmeat Mary
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
#70 - 2015-06-18 03:12:18 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
If only they often sat in the same spot suspect flagged for hours at a time.

Or had hundreds to thousands or even tens of thousands of other people they're at war with who you could cooperate with.

Of course this is fantasy thinking, NEVER would this happen.

'If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins onto their clothing. And if we're very, very lucky, they'll do it in that order.'

Yeah, we're like that.
Lane Wyeth-XXVI
Perkone
Caldari State
#71 - 2015-06-19 08:03:47 UTC
Funny thing is my corp got 4 wardecs in 3 days and we somehow fought 1 wardec off and made them resign the war...

However the corp has a sense of suicidal tendency to it and may end up trying to t1 frig fight the next corp to wardec us since then...

Moral of the story is fighting back isnt always best
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#72 - 2015-06-19 13:20:26 UTC
Lane Wyeth-XXVI wrote:
Funny thing is my corp got 4 wardecs in 3 days and we somehow fought 1 wardec off and made them resign the war...

However the corp has a sense of suicidal tendency to it and may end up trying to t1 frig fight the next corp to wardec us since then...

Moral of the story is fighting back isnt always best

Eventually you will learn all the ways to not do it by losing. Then you will start scoring kills and if you learn your lessons winning the wars Blink

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Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#73 - 2015-06-19 13:28:38 UTC
I still suck at hunting war targets.
I try, but more often than not I end up scaring the fish.
Then I get frustrated and go back to annoying bears until people who are more competent than me log on.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Valkin Mordirc
#74 - 2015-06-19 14:02:50 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
I still suck at hunting war targets.
I try, but more often than not I end up scaring the fish.
Then I get frustrated and go back to annoying bears until people who are more competent than me log on.



You can hunt me any time Omar. *wink wink*
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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#75 - 2015-06-19 14:03:22 UTC
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
I still suck at hunting war targets.
I try, but more often than not I end up scaring the fish.
Then I get frustrated and go back to annoying bears until people who are more competent than me log on.



You can hunt me any time Omar. *wink wink*


no! pick me pick me pick me

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Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#76 - 2015-06-19 14:23:26 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
I still suck at hunting war targets.
I try, but more often than not I end up scaring the fish.
Then I get frustrated and go back to annoying bears until people who are more competent than me log on.



You can hunt me any time Omar. *wink wink*


no! pick me pick me pick me


Nuh uh. We're all warlike and stuff. I'll play with you Valkin. I'm usually up and about in the mornings and our corp code requires we honor 1v1's and stuff. Not that I wouldn't. Sling me a mail and I'll meet up with you in a ship of similar class and we can duke it out sometime. It'll be fun. There may even be slaves and exotic dancers in my hold. I'd much rather go up against someone who wants to fight than try to get my ninja on against scaredybears who are pretty sure the sky is falling.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2015-06-20 21:26:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Demerius Xenocratus
Freya Sertan wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:
I wouldnt want to undock in HS during a wardec either. Simply because you cant tell what (how many neutral alts) you're going to face. LowSec or 0.0 on the other hand is a different story.


Meh. So you undock and find a small gang and you proceed to get rekt. Or you find a solo and you get rekt. Or you find a solo and THEY get rekt. Far too many "what ifs" for me to sit and shipspin. I COULD win, and that's what drives me to undock. I couldn't care less if I lost my Rattlesnake on the next undock; it's a chance I take regardless. The chances of losing your ship are just a little raised in a war.

Every time I hear someone offer an excuse as to why they hide from a wardec it just serves to remind me that I play EvE a very different way than some. Thanks for the replies, all.


Eventually you run out of ISK for ships though, if you keep undocking expensive things into a hopeless situation. Unless your primary income comes from another account, which changes the calculation considerably. Many people in highsec who get wardecced are not in that position though.

Personally I think telling people to undock into a fight they have almost no chance of winning is just as problematic as telling people not to undock unless for a sure win.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#78 - 2015-06-21 00:32:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Noragen Neirfallas
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Freya Sertan wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:
I wouldnt want to undock in HS during a wardec either. Simply because you cant tell what (how many neutral alts) you're going to face. LowSec or 0.0 on the other hand is a different story.


Meh. So you undock and find a small gang and you proceed to get rekt. Or you find a solo and you get rekt. Or you find a solo and THEY get rekt. Far too many "what ifs" for me to sit and shipspin. I COULD win, and that's what drives me to undock. I couldn't care less if I lost my Rattlesnake on the next undock; it's a chance I take regardless. The chances of losing your ship are just a little raised in a war.

Every time I hear someone offer an excuse as to why they hide from a wardec it just serves to remind me that I play EvE a very different way than some. Thanks for the replies, all.


Eventually you run out of ISK for ships though, if you keep undocking expensive things into a hopeless situation. Unless your primary income comes from another account, which changes the calculation considerably. Many people in highsec who get wardecced are not in that position though.

Personally I think telling people to undock into a fight they have almost no chance of winning is just as problematic as telling people not to undock unless for a sure win.

How do you know you can't win? You need to try things to know what you can and can not win. I've had a Tristan kill my ishkur with a Deimos(me) on field. I've fielded a Tristan against an Aug a Bb a maller and 13 frigates/ destroyers going 10+1 pod for 1 loss. My only regret was I didn't have links present. I have taken a 4 man fleet to kill a guy and called scatter after we lost one and I was about to hit hull. Now in hind site I should have known that 3 cruisers and a frig would struggle to break a hype. But as I had never flown one or fought a competent one I didn't. To put this into context this all happened during my stays at Marmite. How does one know what is and is not possible without experience? And who are you to say it is not without a single bit of on field knowledge? How dare you try and make this wide eyed newbro into a bitter vet before their time. Shame on you

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#79 - 2015-06-21 04:49:34 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Freya Sertan wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:
I wouldnt want to undock in HS during a wardec either. Simply because you cant tell what (how many neutral alts) you're going to face. LowSec or 0.0 on the other hand is a different story.


Meh. So you undock and find a small gang and you proceed to get rekt. Or you find a solo and you get rekt. Or you find a solo and THEY get rekt. Far too many "what ifs" for me to sit and shipspin. I COULD win, and that's what drives me to undock. I couldn't care less if I lost my Rattlesnake on the next undock; it's a chance I take regardless. The chances of losing your ship are just a little raised in a war.

Every time I hear someone offer an excuse as to why they hide from a wardec it just serves to remind me that I play EvE a very different way than some. Thanks for the replies, all.


Eventually you run out of ISK for ships though, if you keep undocking expensive things into a hopeless situation. Unless your primary income comes from another account, which changes the calculation considerably. Many people in highsec who get wardecced are not in that position though.

Personally I think telling people to undock into a fight they have almost no chance of winning is just as problematic as telling people not to undock unless for a sure win.


The best advice is to leave highsec. Wardecs don't matter then.

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#80 - 2015-06-21 05:59:21 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:


The best advice is to leave highsec. Wardecs don't matter then.


LOL - talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Just relentlessly drop and reform corp, and it will be the griefers who are the ones fleeing to nullsec.