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Time to dust off that drake
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Prt Scr
569th Freelancers
#1 - 2015-06-11 21:02:13 UTC
So with the new missile modules (extra range and damage) coming soon, do we return to the good old days of drake fleets, especially as the smart-bomb firewall is getting nerf /countered with changes to missiles?

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2015-06-11 21:10:48 UTC
Prt Scr wrote:
So with the new missile modules (extra range and damage) coming soon, do we return to the good old days of drake fleets, especially as the smart-bomb firewall is getting nerf /countered with changes to missiles?

Where's the sauce? (Yes I ment to misspell that )

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#3 - 2015-06-11 21:20:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Where's the sauce? (Yes I ment to misspell that )

So far just comments in the o7 show.

5% buff to heavy missiles and new missile modules coming. More hit points for missiles and resists against their own damage type. Devblogs to follow soon. No real sauce yet.
Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
#4 - 2015-06-11 21:24:37 UTC
Lol no the drake is still terribad. The only thing somewhat impacted by this buff are going to be battleships with rapid heavy missiles.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#5 - 2015-06-11 21:42:37 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Where's the sauce? (Yes I ment to misspell that )

So far just comments in the o7 show.

5% buff to heavy missiles and new missile modules coming. More hit points for missiles and resists against their own damage type. Devblogs to follow soon. No real sauce yet.

Bah! weaksauce.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#6 - 2015-06-11 22:27:44 UTC
Dust off that Drake? LOL NO. More like bow down before your RHML Phoon overlords.





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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-06-11 23:31:22 UTC
New missile mods... Hmm interesting.

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Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#8 - 2015-06-12 04:19:14 UTC
they're giving heavies a straight damage buff? well it's about time. They have almost identical stats to lights in terms of damage and range but apply much worse.
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-06-12 05:07:31 UTC
dont get too excited. 5% bonus according to larkin. however the modules sound neat.

oh and you are mistaken, dust off that tengu missile sub. Swarms of oversized AB fits coming to a hostile fleet near you.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2015-06-12 05:14:44 UTC
Is that what? Good by Ishtar, Hello Caracal Family? As well as Old School Tengu.

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HELLBOUNDMAN
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-06-12 05:14:53 UTC
Why do I suddenly see the RHML fitted Barghest becoming popular?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#12 - 2015-06-12 05:45:40 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Dust off that Drake? LOL NO. More like bow down before your RHML Phoon overlords.









Oh sure, keep The Gimp in his box. You can't do that forever.

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Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-06-12 06:11:38 UTC
it kind of makes me sad that the cyclone will never get mentioned from this.

hopefully the CBC changes will help it out.
Portiko
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-06-12 06:13:04 UTC
Wow, maybe missiles can stop sucking so much now.

lol jk

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Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#15 - 2015-06-12 07:22:59 UTC
Oh..and don't forget that Fozzie is sat with the nerf bat at his side..and still looking at the Ishtar..

Unless I misunderstood the comments last night.

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#16 - 2015-06-12 08:43:14 UTC
Drago Shouna wrote:
Oh..and don't forget that Fozzie is sat with the nerf bat at his side..and still looking at the Ishtar..

Unless I misunderstood the comments last night.

No, you understood perfectly.

More nerf to the Ishtar coming.
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#17 - 2015-06-12 09:10:18 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Drago Shouna wrote:
Oh..and don't forget that Fozzie is sat with the nerf bat at his side..and still looking at the Ishtar..

Unless I misunderstood the comments last night.

No, you understood perfectly.

More nerf to the Ishtar coming.


Gotta make people train *something*.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2015-06-12 09:31:25 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
New missile mods... Hmm interesting.


not really

if you do fly a drake to use them you have 2 choices

use Mid slot options - have a crap tank
use Low slot options - have crap dps
use Low & Mid slot options - have a crap tank AND crap dps

... winning all the way
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2015-06-12 09:52:19 UTC
Kitty Bear wrote:
Tiddle Jr wrote:
New missile mods... Hmm interesting.


not really

if you do fly a drake to use them you have 2 choices

use Mid slot options - have a crap tank
use Low slot options - have crap dps
use Low & Mid slot options - have a crap tank AND crap dps

... winning all the way


Did you already try all those? Please provide with detailed stats then.

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Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2015-06-12 10:17:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Kitty Bear
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:
Tiddle Jr wrote:
New missile mods... Hmm interesting.


not really

if you do fly a drake to use them you have 2 choices

use Mid slot options - have a crap tank
use Low slot options - have crap dps
use Low & Mid slot options - have a crap tank AND crap dps

... winning all the way


Did you already try all those? Please provide with detailed stats then.


that's easily simulated
open a fitting program

- remove 2 shield modules from a 'standard' drake fitting
the tank is now crap

- remove 2 BCU's from a 'standard' drake fitting
the dps is now crap


the planned modules are essentially tracking enhancers and tracking computers, but for missiles
raw dps will not be increased

for missiles, the equivalent of tracking speed is explosion velocity and explosion radius

explosion velocity and explosion radius are only limiting factors to missile dps when you are shooting a target that is 1 size class or more smaller than the weapons size class being fired. raw dps is not decreased, you merely apply less of the available dps to the target

this makes the modules highly situational
ie .. only of use when shooting a target that is smaller than the weapon class

moar range .... whoopdie-woo .. I'm so excited


edit
oh and not's let forget ..

with these modules comes "e-war modules will affect missile ships"

tracking disruptors could be scoffed at ... not after these go live
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