Player Features and Ideas Discussion

to be honest you don't ened to have these deep space areas aw part of the galaxy, just expand on the sleepers territory.

Now you have sleeper loot and NPCs, you can make huge systems with maybe one gate- frontier space. gates need stars but not planets, so have them go to massive starsystems with no celestials.

The concept is cool. Although, I'd suggest you have classes of deep space....sort of like WH space. Some systems ought to be SOV-able or held by Serpentis-in-hiding...etc......others too alien to even describe here.....think...blackhole in center with floating anomalies....or supernova......get to close...you get thermal damage....etc. Vary it so that you get a mixture for all types of players. I like the idea of using Wormholes that are hard to scan down.....exploration toons would have to be very very good to find these little nuggets....perhaps they're inside other wormholes....never seen in losec/nullsec/hisec....

It should be possible for loner alliances to get lost in space.....or an explorer to suddenly run into 'civilization' by that same alliance ....at the most unexpected locations.....think Bespin in Empire Strikes Back....or get so lost that they have a hard time getting back to Empire....LOL.....

Someone grab the stick !

The op's idea has alot of potential / merit. As it is, Eve has become stagnant, boring, and somewhat scripted. I hardly use my 2005 account and this one will probably end up being cancelled in the near future. A person can only do so much and then one day it happens...you get burned out.

Where is Eve now? One click away on my desktop. The next patch ...just updated eyecandy, some fixes, and another ship to sit and spin with...meh. Deepspace might provide some much needed content in which the devs could pursue.


The op has my vote....get it done devs...implement the unknown...give us Deepspace Explorations....

For some reason i dont think the devs come here.......

I think everyone likes the idea of new space, and many dislike he fact that it might be tied to the endless meta-gaming and RISK-style space aquisition battles of Nullsec.

I think a system where factions introduced new gates for deployment by players in Faction Warfare might be cool.

Essentially, using either Faction standings, or combined FW rank and standings to aquire and deploy a gate for a specific faction in a charted region of low sec space that can be used to travel to "Deepspace" or farther into the core or rimward arms of EVEs galaxy and aquire new space for the factions.

These area's would become NPC Nullsec, and would have the potential to lead to a great number of systems which may also be reached by other points, allowing for player dominated Amarr, Gallente,Minmatar, Caldari, and perhaps other Nullsec regions to be explored and expanded by players.

These regions would be rich in potential rewards, and with exception to the vast gates, (for lack of a better term), required to reach them or even link individual regions, be capable of being expanded from the original point of entry by more standard gates.

Some technology of the gates themselvs might prevent anchored bubbles around them, but there is no reason to postulate that it would otherwise be impossible to anchor such devices.

Concord would be non-existent of course, but NPC bounties in the form of LP or some other reward may still be available from the factions supplying the technology to access the regions.

Some of this technology might come as a direct result of sleeper research, or in the form of yet another boon from the Jovians to the empires, which may later be stolen and made available through pirates or corporations interested in gaining foothold their own territories, distant from the reach of the empires.

Rich in potential Faction warfare possibilities to bolster that flagging model; new space for everybody once the initial gates are brought online, and plenty of exploration possibilities, reason for new technologies and player accellerated growth without creating just more Nullsec.

New Skills would be required to set-up the gates, as well as to probe or otherwise locate the near star systems within the regions and places where you can anchor additional gates to reach them. Plenty of logistics required.

Some tech would almost certainly rely on the sleepers as every gate would have to encompass the destination and point of origin, with gates on either end. Instantaneous wormhole, gate seperation, transport of destination gate, etc...

As far as i see it all the posts have some for of info that i would love to see
I would love to see the following :

Deep Space Systems :
750 – 1500 new D-space systems scattered around the “Galaxy”
This will decrease the population density by about 10%-20%
- Black-hol / bi-tri-nairy systems hidden from the galaxy map
- Systems holding : Planets, Moons, ICE-belts, Asteroid-Belts, Gas-clouds, All-types of Signatures, T3 resources (for new T3 ships) etc etc
- Infested with : Sleeper IA level pirates/drones/empire fleets/ships
set on destroying any and all player owned ships and structures..
they will increase their strength to match that of the residences.
even you’re POD/Clone is no longer save, No Bounties,
- D-space systems resource are depended on location in space,
Close to / in between empire = Low resource value..
Close to / in between True Null Sec = High Resource Value
- Capable of allowing both POSes and Outpost(s) (multiple would make it more hostile and fought over as 0.0 is now)
- No Local (a’la W-space)
- Only accable by DS exploration ships / DS Cyno / DS jumpbridge
- Moving arround Systems of a specific region (no set location). but predictable (like a predifind range each day)

Deep Space Signature ( DSS ) :
- Signatures that are used by de Exploration ships as stepping stones to find the new D-space systems ()
- Missing the spot will result in dropping in K-space or Unknown hostile sites that can result in deadly injuries
- Close to / in between empire = Easy to scan – Small jumps
Close to / in between True Null Sec = Very Hard to scan – Lon range jumps
- To long in 1 spot will result in “pain”

DS jumpbridge
- New POS module that allows for a bridge between K-space and D-space
- No way to password protect (free for all acces)(deathstar anyone ?)
- Able to hookup to any POS (no sec limit)
- No Super Caps allowed
- 2 Sizes, 1 for links to High sec (no CAPships allowed at all), 1 size for Low and 0.0 (Allowing CAPships)

DS exploration ships
- Capable of non-cyno Jump drive to scout the new area’s (only on DSS)
- Capable of finding the new DS-signatures
- Low Offensive / High Defensive capability
- Incapable of being any form of game-changer in (SOV) warfare
- All sizes.. size dictates jump-scanner range
example :
frigates = 0.5 Ly
Cruisers = 1.0 Ly
BC = 2.5 Ly
BS = 5 Ly
- Able to light and detected DS cyno
- Bonus to scanner accuarcy, DS Cyno Fuel cost


DS combat / industrial / Mining ships
- New T3 ships
- Able to jump on DS cyno
- Different sizes with ranges like the explorer ships
- Handeling like there T2 same class competitors
- Varied types of bonusses


DS Motherships
- Capable of non-cyno Jump drive to scout the new area’s (only on DSS)
- T2 Carrier Hull
- Normal Carrier stats added : DS Mobile JumpPortal generator
- Bonus for DS jumprange and scanning range(lower drone bonusses)
- Able to jump on DS cyno and normal cyno

DS Fatherships
- T2 Dreadnought Hull
- SiegeMode deploys POS like shield (radius of ~5Km)(not like ShipShield)
- Bonus for Shield HP and Radius(lower dps bonus)
- Able to jump on DS cyno and normal cyno

DS cyno
- Only able to light in blackhole / Bi-Tri-nairy system(D-space)
- Jumpable to by a DS jumpdrive
- Hiden from overview

DS jump portal generator
- Only works into and out of D-space
- Hiden from overview
- will add new dimention to SOV war i know... but makes it intresting

SOO many more ideas just pop in my head .... its one hell of an expension

I spent some time thinking about this last night.

In my opinion the best way to do this is to make it a completely new aspect of EVE online.

One that you cant bring back endless mins from or piles of isk you made without any risk.

Basic deal ought to be. New ships new type of warp based on long periods of time. No potential for isk abuse outside 30M an hour for so for very skilled players. Basically a new game within a game that you access while docked.

In the main game once we are able to get to 100K accounts on for an average amount of time my opinion is that it will be time to double the amount of systems within low and nullsec.

By this point we ought to have.

A) A completely modular POS and Corp system to reduce the effect of spies and thus newer players will find it easier to get into nullsec action.

B) A change in many of the roles of T1 craft so that there is a great deal more variety of skill training and ship use.

C) A COMPLETE change in the mining system.

So all this is a general growth of EVE.

Just some thoughts around this part:

In theory, empire space is colonised because its systems are reasonably stable, but that doesn't mean that every system was colonised - they could well have skipped over systems because they were just too hostile to bother with. There could be stellar or non-stellar systems right in the heart of empire, but you'd never know about it.
These systems don't have to have low resources, but they should be bloody difficult to live in!

I was going to suggest a system with a pulsar in it, but considering pulsars are visible from other galaxies, having one on your back door step would be kinda noticeable, and all of empire could have felt its effects by now, so how about something a little tamer - a star in the early stages of going nova; something that pulses system-wide with massive bursts of EM/thermal radiation every few minutes or hours (or a similar variety of effects, like wormholes currently have).

Something that wears down structures over time, requiring constant maintenance. Whether it's cyno-jammers, the "beacons" that broadcast local, POSs, etc - whoever lives there decides what structures survive. To support those who want to live there, a range of modules that have resistances to those specific environmental effects could be fitted to your POS or ship. Anyone wanting to invade you will need to fit their ships accordingly if they hope to survive.

As Dark Drifter suggested, perhaps the Terrans discovered these systems long ago and set up gates to them. There could even be Terran artifacts hidden away.

If, however, CCP Soundwave is going to completely chicken out and not make EVE awesomer , something like that could be done to some existing nullsec systems, so that the lazy alliances get their toys broken, and the active ones get some harsh systems with bigger rewards.

I hate the idea of re-introducing Earth in any space game. Can we really conceptualize where Earth will be in 20K years? If we could; would we want to deploy armadas against Earth defenses? Meet opposition when we wanted to explore Terran space? etc...

It's also done to death.