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Apparently it is OK to reuse skins of unique ships

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X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
#121 - 2015-06-09 23:56:03 UTC
Solairen wrote:
Well I don't know if it was all the whining or not, but they didn't add the Stratios SKIN today like they said they would. They only added the Astero.

Kind of annoying since I was looking forward to it, and seems silly it wasn't added because it looked like someone else ship even though that special ship had different & better stats.

I guess squeaky wheel gets the grease. (Unless it has to do w/ Sentries and Ishtars, then it gets ignored).


They are not releasing them all at once.

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Greezy Bartholomew Esq
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#122 - 2015-06-10 00:05:19 UTC
Did CCP specifically state the SER was limited edition when it was released? If so, it's pretty scummy to go back on their word. I remember when Riot started re-releasing limited edition skins in League and people (rightfully so) flipped out.

If they never said they were going to be limited edition you don't really have much of a complaint.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#123 - 2015-06-10 00:07:49 UTC
There is something about this thread ... can't quite put my finger on it. P

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Solairen
Matsuko Holding
#124 - 2015-06-10 00:10:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Solairen
Greezy Bartholomew Esq wrote:
Did CCP specifically state the SER was limited edition when it was released? If so, it's pretty scummy to go back on their word. I remember when Riot started re-releasing limited edition skins in League and people (rightfully so) flipped out.

If they never said they were going to be limited edition you don't really have much of a complaint.


The hull was limited edtion (Only 4 seeded to TQ) - and still is, it has better stats and different stats. All CCP was adding was the color scheme.

It's the equivalent of adding "Navy" SKINs. Doesn't make it a NAVY Brutix in stats, only makes it have the paint job.
Solairen
Matsuko Holding
#125 - 2015-06-10 00:14:01 UTC
Entity wrote:
Solairen wrote:
Well I don't know if it was all the whining or not, but they didn't add the Stratios SKIN today like they said they would. They only added the Astero.

Kind of annoying since I was looking forward to it, and seems silly it wasn't added because it looked like someone else ship even though that special ship had different & better stats.

I guess squeaky wheel gets the grease. (Unless it has to do w/ Sentries and Ishtars, then it gets ignored).


They are not releasing them all at once.


(True - they only said they'd start releasing them today) (But...)


Shhhhhhhhhhh this is a whine thread about paint jobs shared between ships that have different stats. And I'm trying to participate by whining.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#126 - 2015-06-10 00:21:42 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
There is something about this thread ... can't quite put my finger on it. P



And those guy behind still looking at blondie ...

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Greezy Bartholomew Esq
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#127 - 2015-06-10 01:34:08 UTC
Solairen wrote:
Greezy Bartholomew Esq wrote:
Did CCP specifically state the SER was limited edition when it was released? If so, it's pretty scummy to go back on their word. I remember when Riot started re-releasing limited edition skins in League and people (rightfully so) flipped out.

If they never said they were going to be limited edition you don't really have much of a complaint.


The hull was limited edtion (Only seeded to TQ) - and still is, it has better stats and different stats. All CCP was adding was the color scheme.

It's the equivalent of adding "Navy" SKINs. Doesn't make it a NAVY Brutix in stats, only makes it have the paint job.



IMHO the paint job is part of the hull so I'm leaning towards my original thought on this. It's a scummy thing for CCP to do.

Why not just make the new skin a different color so the SER remains unique?
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#128 - 2015-06-10 01:43:31 UTC
Entity rustling all these jelly poors lmao.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#129 - 2015-06-10 02:06:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Seven Koskanaiken
Apropos of nothing, I like how this skin thing continues to lurch from one controversy to another without any sign of abating, and needlessly manages to **** off a new group of players each and every time. From the scrapped blueprint model, the release bug that was more popular than the feature, the greed is good pricing, and now recycling of "unique" skins because every child must have a trophy, I guess...

...and we're still not anywhere in sight of the actual and only skinning feature people asked for and wanted, promoted by CCP Seagull on stage at fanfest 2013/4 (?); custom creation of alliance theme skins/livery. Like, a universally popular thing that should have been impossible to screw up and angered no one. Who was asking for, or anticipating, unique skins to be applied to all ships 2 years ago? Literally no one. If some mission bear came here then, demanding CCP give them the Imperial Apoc skin on their Level4 ship, they would have been (rightly!) trolled out in a New York minute.

Who is behind all of this? Money's on the EA guy hired in 2013.
Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#130 - 2015-06-10 09:27:39 UTC
Princess Entity tears still flowing?
Wendrika Hydreiga
#131 - 2015-06-10 10:59:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Wendrika Hydreiga
I don't know what is worse. If the fact an incredibly ellusive special edition ship was given out only to a RMT 3rd party or that one of the owners of that ship is complaining that people will be able to fly ships that "look" like it.
Khan Wrenth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#132 - 2015-06-10 12:35:12 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Apropos of nothing, I like how this skin thing continues to lurch from one controversy to another without any sign of abating, and needlessly manages to **** off a new group of players each and every time. From the scrapped blueprint model, the release bug that was more popular than the feature, the greed is good pricing, and now recycling of "unique" skins because every child must have a trophy, I guess...

...and we're still not anywhere in sight of the actual and only skinning feature people asked for and wanted, promoted by CCP Seagull on stage at fanfest 2013/4 (?); custom creation of alliance theme skins/livery. Like, a universally popular thing that should have been impossible to screw up and angered no one. Who was asking for, or anticipating, unique skins to be applied to all ships 2 years ago? Literally no one. If some mission bear came here then, demanding CCP give them the Imperial Apoc skin on their Level4 ship, they would have been (rightly!) trolled out in a New York minute.

Who is behind all of this? Money's on the EA guy hired in 2013.


I do believe this qualifies as a wrecking shot. Someone at CCP just got alpha'd off the grid.

Let's discuss overhauling the way we get intel in EvE.
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#133 - 2015-06-10 12:53:44 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
I don't know what is worse. If the fact an incredibly ellusive special edition ship was given out only to a RMT 3rd party or that one of the owners of that ship is complaining that people will be able to fly ships that "look" like it.


I'm sure you can back that up with some facts etc, right?
Fatoria Hemah
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#134 - 2015-06-10 17:22:36 UTC
Putting in Skins for ships to look-alike unique onse is such a horrible thing. It's like we go to the olympic games and got told 'Well we decided the 2nd and 3rd best athlets can get a Gold painting on their medals it they want. Don't worry, it's still silver and bronze on the inside' - all would go wtf and for good reason
Same here, there have been unique ships handed out on special events like winners of Alliance tournaments.
If it's too hard to update those skins with better graphics if there aren't that many just let them keep old skins, makes them just look more special ;)
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#135 - 2015-06-10 18:07:24 UTC
Fatoria Hemah wrote:
Putting in Skins for ships to look-alike unique onse is such a horrible thing. It's like we go to the olympic games and got told 'Well we decided the 2nd and 3rd best athlets can get a Gold painting on their medals it they want. Don't worry, it's still silver and bronze on the inside' - all would go wtf and for good reason
Same here, there have been unique ships handed out on special events like winners of Alliance tournaments.
If it's too hard to update those skins with better graphics if there aren't that many just let them keep old skins, makes them just look more special ;)


Who's gonna stop anyone from painting his Olympic medal a different colour? Who's gonna get his jimmies rustled because said medal got painted over?

You do realise if you put the effort into it you could CAST a medal just like the Olympic ones right?

Hell 3d print one and paint it gold. I'm sure people will cry about it...
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#136 - 2015-06-10 18:17:46 UTC
Gregor Parud wrote:
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
I don't know what is worse. If the fact an incredibly ellusive special edition ship was given out only to a RMT 3rd party or that one of the owners of that ship is complaining that people will be able to fly ships that "look" like it.


I'm sure you can back that up with some facts etc, right?


The 45 Trillion ISK repossessions by CCP happened just for luls in August of 2014-YC116? Smile

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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#137 - 2015-06-10 21:00:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiddle Jr
The majority of Eve players don't even know that there is some other Stratios other than standard one been released. But even if they would know it pretty much sure they don't care.
More to say this ship SER is not the same as AT ships where some people trying refer to. It's rareness coming from different event. Which is more likely the case we have with Ishukone Scorp. I got 3 of Such scorps on hand when i found myself round eyes and furstraded by fact of what just happened. But it is what it is, no tears here from me.

It is an issue for a very limited number of people, and i think it's better for them to resolve it internally with CCP withput public attention.

Still wsiting for the Big L comment here.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#138 - 2015-06-10 21:23:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Elizabeth Norn
GankYou wrote:
Gregor Parud wrote:
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
I don't know what is worse. If the fact an incredibly ellusive special edition ship was given out only to a RMT 3rd party or that one of the owners of that ship is complaining that people will be able to fly ships that "look" like it.


I'm sure you can back that up with some facts etc, right?


The 45 Trillion ISK repossessions by CCP happened just for luls in August of 2014-YC116? Smile


That was for all RMTers that got caught wasn't it? I doubt anything belonging to Somer was repossessed because they gave Blink time to pay out withdrawals.

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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#139 - 2015-06-10 23:23:54 UTC
Somer never got caught for RMTing.. he was banned for posting an exchange between himself and a member of CCP.

Also, CCP never said it was exclusive or wouldn't be released again. Just that it was first released there.
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#140 - 2015-06-10 23:27:22 UTC
GankYou wrote:
Gregor Parud wrote:
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
I don't know what is worse. If the fact an incredibly ellusive special edition ship was given out only to a RMT 3rd party or that one of the owners of that ship is complaining that people will be able to fly ships that "look" like it.


I'm sure you can back that up with some facts etc, right?


The 45 Trillion ISK repossessions by CCP happened just for luls in August of 2014-YC116? Smile


Oh doh, I thought he meant Entity.