Player Features and Ideas Discussion

All missiles or a new variant of missile, that block or reduce an amount of repair from modules and external logistic repair as the missile damage distorts the surface Armor and shield it hits, so you could have (x) amount of damage and (x) amount of distortion, this would add a bit of extra feature to missiles due to the delay between shots.

ill try to have some figures maybe this will help:

(Just as an example): your module does 100 repair per cycle or you gain 100 repair from a Logistic ship, A missile hits the target and adds it's distortion to the repair amount lets say for ease of reading and understanding its (50), the logistic ship or ship with a repair module, has to repair through the distortion in its next repair cycle so depending on your repair amount in this case the amount of repair you will gain is 50.

Also to add, and take note, each missile strike does not add distortion unless there is no distortion to repair through, so you wont have multiple ships with missiles bringing the repair amount to 0.

Well yes the point is giving missiles some niche use, and i don't think it would be unbalanced due to the missile flight delay and missile re-loading. your missile damage vs repair amount, will still be a governing factor for example a larger ship then yours with a higher repair amount will still have the potential to repair more then your damage.... but an added feature is the ability to drop repair amount over the length of combat. I prefer that as its not overpowered, while eventually overcoming defenses a little quicker.

Also no its not floating damage, read the numbers again: 100-50 = 50

so that's 50 less repair in the next repair cycle, you don't need to repair through a section of shield or armor.

Does it affect passive regen?
Local tank?
Remote reps?

Cool. Great nerf to every form of tanking but straight armor/hull buffer. Not a thing I want.

This got me thinking, how about missiles that deal heat damage to modules instead of actual damage.

So this idea basically ads a 4th type of HP to a ship. A "ghost HP" if you will, or even, "anti-HP" that counts upwards from 0 instead of counting down from a specified value.

Ship has 1000 shields, armor and hull, all as normal.

Incoming special-snowflake missile does 100 damage (+50 anti-HP).

Ship now has 900 shields (with 50 anti-HP).

Incoming remote rep must now deplete the "anti-HP" to 0 before any repairs are applied to the shields. So 1 cycle of shield transfer for +100 shield, actually only gives +50 shield, bringing ship back to 950 shield.

If created... these missiles would either:

1. Have high enough DPS to be insanely OP, and be the only thing worth using in fleet fights where there is Logi
2. Have such low DPS that they are useless and just another un-used garbage weapon that people cry for buffs once in a while (FoF missiles)
3. Or their DPS is balanced to pretty much be no different than a normal weapon system and ends up being no better or worse against logi than normal DPS, but with a stupid, new number to keep track of.

Dumb

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this comment is close to right, but leaves out a very important factor.

Fleets.


Lets say a small fleet of 4 people with 2 logis is able to burn down a fleet of 10, thanks to logi.
Now, take 2 of those 10 in the losing fleet and give them these missiles.
All the sudden, logi and active tank becomes useless.


This is basically a nerf to all forms of active rep, which would be a very unneeded buff to hull and armor buffer tanks.

the problem I have with these ideas is this: Does anyone bring in to the account this ability would be given to NPCs which can hit you with so many missiles you cant see your ship?

TL:DR if the ability which we know CCP would, give it to NPCS that would make running anything but belts impossible, and even belts would have to have a break unless the ability goes away between salvos.

as for pvp, I can see ships with aux highs having missile launchers just to combine this affect with their main guns rather then using neuts or some other weapons which those ships that have mixed highs

No this would not be given to NPC's lol, this is a player only missile if that is the concern its rather strange i dont see why npc's would be given them.

Then how about this? 200 ships are shooting a Titan, but ut's recieving reps and holding, then a Kestral comes in and starts shooting these missiles at it. The Titan gets 50% reps, causing its tank to collapse and it dies. Would that be an over-reaction?

I can see some value to something like this, but I feel that in large fights it would be impossibly hard to balance.