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Rio Bravo
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-06-08 23:31:35 UTC
Hi,

Was going to make an official request here to update the EvE Online Corp Logo creator system. Frankly, it's old. Also, not enough variety. Maybe add a dozen more colors (green?) and can we update the symbols and some of the blocks and bars and circles?

Some people get creative, but the thing is, most of the 'building blocks' are kind of tired looking. It's the same old horse in a circle or cross with sword...it's been twelve years! They all start to look the same! Tell me you can get some kind of nice, shiny, system together that's full of variety. Colors, shapes, symbols and endless combinations?

Many corps would take pride in redoing their logo from the old gold star with blue circle from 2005.

Other than that, nice graphics on the ships by the way.

“You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. I dig.”  - Clint Eastwood, misquote.
Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#2 - 2015-06-09 00:41:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Otso Bakarti
Isn't that interface funny? I have to check the date on my clock when I use it.
I get a feeling I've been propelled back into the late 20th Century.

Not the only one like that. What happened to the revamp of the corporate interface?

ZERO

WAIT! You have to pay someone to do it! The new MMO business model is:

DON'T PAY DEVELOPERS. Make the players get mom to pull out her VISA.

Oh! Oh! Oh! And they're worried about "who owns" alliance logos.

BWAA HAAAA HAAAAA HAAAAAA HAAAAAA!!!

Let's get Iceland's water checked...maybe the volcanic fumes in the air.

There just isn't anything that can be said!
Kharnakh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2015-06-09 01:58:27 UTC
Rio Bravo wrote:

Was going to make an official request here to update the EvE Online Corp Logo creator system. Frankly, it's old. Also, not enough variety.


Tbh, I quite like mine, but more options and opportunities for creativity are always welcome. The last time they touched the corp logo design tool was what? 2006/07?
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#4 - 2015-06-09 06:23:45 UTC
I found the interface far from intuitive to use.

I'm so glad I closed that corp forever, as the logo was so bad my OCD couldn't handle it.
Vek Hareka
Fist Bumps All Around
#5 - 2015-06-09 07:03:36 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
I found the interface far from intuitive to use.

I'm so glad I closed that corp forever, as the logo was so bad my OCD couldn't handle it.


You know you can remake the corp logo anytime... right ?

Here comes a time, ganker,

When blingfits cease to sparkle,

When hermophite looses its luster,

When the station hangar becomes a prison

And all that is left is a capsuleer's love for his fedo.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#6 - 2015-06-09 20:36:09 UTC
The elements available in creator are too complex and too few, more basic elements would create more variety.

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Pops Tickle
Tickle Industries
#7 - 2015-06-09 21:09:44 UTC
This was effort: https://image.eveonline.com/Corporation/98400672_128.png
Would love to be able to rotate it by 90.

CCP Rise wrote:

"We have tried and tried to validate the myth that griefing has a pronounced affect on new players - we have failed."

Source
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#8 - 2015-06-09 21:11:05 UTC
I will pay aurum to have more and fancier corporation logo elements and colors available to me.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#9 - 2015-06-09 21:18:36 UTC
Vek Hareka wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
I found the interface far from intuitive to use.

I'm so glad I closed that corp forever, as the logo was so bad my OCD couldn't handle it.


You know you can remake the corp logo anytime... right ?

Yes. However my ability to create an attractive logo continues to suck.

I closed the corp because I had forgotten about the 7 day wait for corp standing to update before anchoring a tower. So we went with a pre-made corp instead. Thankfully that mechanic is gone now.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#10 - 2015-06-09 21:22:35 UTC
Also rather than ruining all of the icons in the game, making dumb crap to sell me for aurum like new corp logo elements and decoration doodads to make medals out of would have been a much better way to justify not laying off half the UI team.
Pops Tickle
Tickle Industries
#11 - 2015-06-09 21:36:22 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Vek Hareka wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
I found the interface far from intuitive to use.

I'm so glad I closed that corp forever, as the logo was so bad my OCD couldn't handle it.


You know you can remake the corp logo anytime... right ?

Yes. However my ability to create an attractive logo continues to suck.
Could you elaborate on that? What are the irks and twirks you are confronted with?

CCP Rise wrote:

"We have tried and tried to validate the myth that griefing has a pronounced affect on new players - we have failed."

Source
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#12 - 2015-06-10 00:23:46 UTC
There aren't many options for logo elements, you have basically zero choice in where they appear on the logo, you have a heavily limited color palette and every element looks like absolute trash?

I imagine those issues could be pretty annoying.

I don't think I've seen very many corp logos that I thought actually looked good. At best corp logos are alright looking, but they're rarely good and never interesting.

Does the art team have an intern or something they could just have open up photoshop and redo everything?
Rio Bravo
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2015-06-10 00:50:33 UTC
Don't judge me for the reference...

Minecraft created the 'banners' and look at the variety of stuff you can do with that, letters, numbers, pictures, gradient colors (even multiple gradient colors), many designs, very customizable....and its just Minecraft! I know CCP can do better than Minecraft!

Our corporations, shareholders, and our clients deserve better RP marketing firms!

“You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. I dig.”  - Clint Eastwood, misquote.
Primeryissecondary
Mortis Angelus
Triumvirate.
#14 - 2015-06-24 03:47:09 UTC
I have been playing this game for 11 years and something i have learned is that CCP put efforts on things people are not asking for.

* Change a map that was working fine
* Change the icon of the damage control unit,
* Change the icons of ships and **** on your overview.
* Change the limit of how long your text mails can be
* Change how big your recruitment post in-game can be.
* Change to static station (no ships spinning)
* The list can go really long here


I think that after 12 years this game have existed its fair to implement a proper corp logo upload system, so we can create our own logos to represent us the way we want to be seen in-game.

/prim
Satan's Spawn
Satan's Enterprises
#15 - 2015-06-24 12:23:54 UTC
Primeryissecondary wrote:
I have been playing this game for 11 years and something i have learned is that CCP put efforts on things people are not asking for.

* Change a map that was working fine
* Change the icon of the damage control unit,
* Change the icons of ships and **** on your overview.
* Change the limit of how long your text mails can be
* Change how big your recruitment post in-game can be.
* Change to static station (no ships spinning)
* The list can go really long here


I think that after 12 years this game have existed its fair to implement a proper corp logo upload system, so we can create our own logos to represent us the way we want to be seen in-game.

/prim



this ^^^ x1000!

the list of stuff we 'want' them to do never gets even looked at.

Instead they do stuff no-one asks for and generally pisses off at least half the customers.
Celia Snow
Sinners Research and Manufacturing
Outer Planets Association
#16 - 2015-06-24 14:51:32 UTC
I really find it frustrating after so long they go out of their way to change the overlay icons that, as far as I know, no one was wanting but still haven't updated the corp logo system. As people are saying it has been 12 years? Some people have been paying for this game for a lot longer than I have and I can't even imagine how irritating it is to have stuff change that doesn't need to be changed but stuff as simple as a corp logo system has been left untouched. Corp icons was one of the first things I noticed about this game when I started playing. At that time, as newbie, I thought it was crappy.

CCP as a paying customer I want an update to the corp logo creation system.

PS: Changing the overlay icons was a stupid move. Please revert it back.
Wendrika Hydreiga
#17 - 2015-06-24 14:58:38 UTC
I refuse to make a logo for my current corp, or any other corp I create, until the current system is revamped. I'd rather have a blank corp logo than the alternatives.

We could use more options!
Infrequent
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-06-24 15:00:15 UTC
If I remember correctly, recently they said they were working on a better corp logo system, along with the corp interface revamp that they've been working on.
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#19 - 2015-06-24 16:19:52 UTC
Eh, no one will ever see your corp logo long enough to remember what it looks like.

What I wish they'd fix is _private channels_, I still can't alter permissions on a channel that my corp and I have used exclusively for three years because some dude formed it for 30 seconds and then abandoned it in 1957 with a HAM radio or some ****.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#20 - 2015-06-25 06:40:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Pops Tickle wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
However my ability to create an attractive logo continues to suck.

Could you elaborate on that? What are the irks and twirks you are confronted with?

The logo interface seems to operate in layers, but the layers are not obvious to me. I'm very technical, but NOT in any way artistic!

There appear to be 3 layers, each with its own foreground and background. The foreground can be transparent, so the background can show through, which includes all layers lower in the stack. The layers are not independent, so making a change to one layer can have an unexpected effect to the layers stacked on top, which becomes very confusing with multiple layers of transparency.

* It is very cumbersome to make selections and see the result.
* There is no preview, nor dedicated per-layer preview.
* There are no restore-points (undo / redo) to return to. You have to remember anything you liked.
* Layers can't be simply moved around (raised or lowered) .
* Layers can't be simply copied.
* Layers can't be simply reset.
* There is no randomize button(s) that provide half-decent results.
* There is no way to zoom images (yes, I'm old and blind, now get off my lawn!)

Example of a possible improvement:
* Select foreground by spinning mouse-wheel over one image on the left.
* Select background by spinning mouse-wheel over another image in the right.
* Display the resulting image in the center.
* Clicking on any of the three images makes a selection of foreground, background, or both.

I'm OCD enough to be willing to spin the mouse-wheel (please add inertia ballistic, optional of course) through a list of images of all possible foreground & background combinations per layer.
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