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Apparently it is OK to reuse skins of unique ships

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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2015-06-04 21:37:44 UTC
Wait, are we saying we can have blue stratios' now? I haven't looked at vthe skins market lately

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Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2015-06-04 21:54:05 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
Wait, are we saying we can have blue stratios' now? I haven't looked at vthe skins market lately


On June 9th, Sanctuary SKINs for SoE ships will start arriving.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/new-skins-this-summer/
The Slayer
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#43 - 2015-06-04 22:16:41 UTC
Did they ever actually release a statement saying "this Somer.blink raffle is the only time these items will be seeded into the game"?
Entity
X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
#44 - 2015-06-04 22:19:10 UTC
The Slayer wrote:
Did they ever actually release a statement saying "this Somer.blink raffle is the only time these items will be seeded into the game"?


They did. They're not seeding Emergency Responders though, they're reusing the skin. But I still think it's lame to do that.

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Marsha Mallow
#45 - 2015-06-04 22:27:02 UTC
Kaaeliaa wrote:
OP is whining about his stupid e-peen toys no longer making his e-peen look big and hard. Nothing to do with visuals.

OP is normally quite nice as far as I recall, and I've never been all that clear if that's a he or a she, so careful with those claws there :P

Dersen Lowery wrote:
You're one of the lucky few who own a Stratios Emergency Responder. It would be immediately distinguishable on the overview if it ever undocked. I still don't see the problem.

And honestly, the pearl-clutching about how CCP should guarantee that certain arbitrary "investments" by a handful of arbitrarily space-rich capsuleers are always rare and profitable, and that even their outward appearance should be kept from the hoi polloi, is not something I'll ever understand. Enjoy what you have while you have it. It's all CCP's property anyway.

Bit harsh. Those 'lucky few' might have worked hard to be awarded or to buy their unique items. I don't set any store in them either, but I can see why some do, and I really don't see any need to sneer at people who have different goals/hobbies. If I won an AT ship or put a lot of effort into acquiring a collectible, I'd go nuts if CCP arbitrarily ruined that just to make some dirty MT money. It is disrespectful, on various levels, and it cripples parts of the market that are actually quite fun.

We need high value items as a goal for the general playerbase and a minigame for the bigwallet players - and right now all of them are ludicrously unstable. That's actually really destructive if taken too far. Plex price volatility in the last 2 years suggest that the big hitters are moving away from these items to the detriment of the rest of the playerbase - and I'm not sure it's intentional on their part.

Some of you really need to dial down the bitterness towards people with more ISK than you. It's not a crime, not all of them started in 03, and you can 1v1 them anytime. A lot of the richest people ingame are really surprisingly supportive of new players who want to play the market. It's a niche gamestyle, and whether you like it or not, people like to compete over stuff.

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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#46 - 2015-06-04 22:44:16 UTC
Entity wrote:
Really?

So you hand out unique ships as event reward and then just go "lol we'll reuse this skin because only a handful of people have it anyway. We don't care about upsetting customers that obtained those ships, we just care about getting a few more bucks from skins"

Thanks, CCP. Thanks a lot.

I guess I can look forward to seeing the skins of all the unique ships I have in the NEX store.

Seriously though, the visual identity of these ships is part of what makes them unique. I think it's a bad call to reuse those skins. It's not good for the game in the long run.


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Marsha Mallow
#47 - 2015-06-04 22:55:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Marsha Mallow
Eugene Kerner wrote:
We have a saying here for spoiled kids: "Close your eyes and you´ll see what belongs to you"

We have a saying here for c***. It starts with a c

Read the earlier remarks btw, it's not all whinging.

The title is bad tho and does look a tad emo. I'd try chopping out the CCP part and just ask the question: Is it OK to...?

* woops, sorry about the swearing, edited
hope my mother doesn't see this, she said '****' the other day and I nearly crashed my car

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Jenshae Chiroptera
#48 - 2015-06-04 23:18:40 UTC
In before the rant lock.

EVE forums are a harsh universe and your critism is unwanted.

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Not even once

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Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#49 - 2015-06-04 23:21:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Boom Boom Longtime
CCP seem less inclined to protect the founding core values of the game these days while trying to over a milk a cow for all they can get even if it killing the poor beast.

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Lena Lazair
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2015-06-04 23:44:38 UTC
The SER is unique because of its stats, not its skin. A skinned Stratios doesn't have the improved stats of an SER so nobody has disrespected you. If and when they strip the stats off your ship, feel free to lodge a formal complaint...
Solairen
Matsuko Holding
#51 - 2015-06-04 23:45:54 UTC
This thread disappointed me. Cry

I got all excited about a Stratios SKIN, and logged in to buy it with my last remain AUR from before the price change (never buying that **** again).

Only to discover it's not on sale yet Oops
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#52 - 2015-06-04 23:48:38 UTC
When I see a skinned Stratios in space, all I see is a regular Stratios. No way for me to even know there's anything different about it without zooming all the way in, and I'm certainly not doing that every time I see one.

If I ever see one of your fancy Emergency Responders, I'll instantly know what it is because of the "GANK MAGNET" written on my overview.

I guess I might understand your point of view a little better if I was the owner of one of those fancy hulls. Care to donate one?

Who put the goat in there?
Lena Lazair
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#53 - 2015-06-04 23:52:42 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Bit harsh. Those 'lucky few' might have worked hard to be awarded or to buy their unique items. I don't set any store in them either, but I can see why some do, and I really don't see any need to sneer at people who have different goals/hobbies. If I won an AT ship or put a lot of effort into acquiring a collectible, I'd go nuts if CCP arbitrarily ruined that just to make some dirty MT money. It is disrespectful, on various levels, and it cripples parts of the market that are actually quite fun.


Except that's not what's happening at all. The SER is unique because of its stats, not its skin. I'm pretty sure no one with a Chremoas would care if CCP released a Dramiel skin that looked the same, because the point of a Chremoas isn't how it looks, it's how it flies.

If all you wanted to do with an SER was spin the pretty ship in the hangar, you didn't need to own it. You could do that from the ship preview thingy. The release of skins has literally no impact on your ability to continue to spin your SER in the hangar. An SER is unique for its stats alone, which are still just as relevant as ever the moment you undock one.
Marsha Mallow
#54 - 2015-06-05 00:18:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Marsha Mallow
Lena Lazair wrote:
Except that's not what's happening at all. The SER is unique because of its stats, not its skin. I'm pretty sure no one with a Chremoas would care if CCP released a Dramiel skin that looked the same, because the point of a Chremoas isn't how it looks, it's how it flies.

If all you wanted to do with an SER was spin the pretty ship in the hangar, you didn't need to own it. You could do that from the ship preview thingy. The release of skins has literally no impact on your ability to continue to spin your SER in the hangar. An SER is unique for its stats alone, which are still just as relevant as ever the moment you undock one.

If the looks didn't matter, unique ships wouldn't have been skinned in the first place. Entity just had the balls to write what everyone else is edgy about here. Unique ships were unique because of their stats and their appearance. It is very much about vanity and epeen, and so what if it is? What's wrong with showing off, eh?

Given how bad the SKIN implementation is shaping up, pushing for older ship hulls to retain their value doesn't really seem all that unreasonable. It's not like we haven't asked for a date of birth and manufacturer tramp stamp anyway. It's a cheap and dirty concession to do these things using the existing 'decal' system.

I don't have any rare ships of note btw, but the people I chat to want them because they are 'sexy' in all sorts of ways. I like them, and I think their right to be 'sexy' should be preserved, admired and ogled.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Kaaeliaa
Tyrannos Sunset
#55 - 2015-06-05 00:29:53 UTC
Sigh, shoulda used an /s

I get what Entity is saying here, even if I don't entirely agree. Collector ships never get undocked anyway, no one's going to see them.

But CCP's attitude towards ship skins is completely ****** from top to bottom, so there's that.

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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2015-06-05 01:09:16 UTC
While I don't see it as a big issue, as the special Stratios still has unique stats, even if not the skin..
But personally, I'd rather a different skin, as I don't find that one very appealing lol
Marsha Mallow
#57 - 2015-06-05 01:26:34 UTC
Kaaeliaa wrote:
I get what Entity is saying here, even if I don't entirely agree

You have my axe, just hold the line.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Celise Katelo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#58 - 2015-06-05 01:56:24 UTC
Replica, copy, similar, unique, limited edition & fake.. made in china, Swiss made, signed copy... owned by someone famous, the list is endless Shocked

Every item ever made has always been a copy, even if its a one of a kind item, neverbeen made before. Everything we have learnt is because of a copy of what we already have. This is the core mechanic of our knowledge handed down by generations before us.

Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni, commonly known as Michelangelo,

He was an Italian sculptor, painter, architect, poet, and engineer of the High Renaissance who exerted an unparalleled influence on the development of Western art.

Even his work is a copy, because of the way you actually see. Everyone reading is thinking Roll , what is this dude smoking.. Blink


So.. what the jimmy is me on about...

Light rays enter the eye through the cornea, the clear front “window” of the eye. The cornea's refractive power bends the light rays in such a way that they pass freely through the pupil the opening in the center of the iris through which light enters the eye. The iris works like a shutter in a camera.

yes yes get on with it....

The retina is a mass of light-sensitive neurons, called photoreceptors, which change light signals into electrical ones.
Photoreceptors contain chemicals that change when they are hit by light. This causes an electrical signal, which is then sent to the brain along the optic nerve. Different types of photoreceptor allow us to see an enormous range of light.

Yes Google did play a massive roll in some of the details.. i'm not smart but i can copy paste P .../pun ( was intended )

The very first item will always remain special & the very last item will always be a copy of the first. With a similar value. Everything else will be forgotten, unless its seen, then you always think of the very first & the last item. Such is the way of how we all think. The fact that without a copy, this topic wouldn't have been started & your ship you have we wouldn't have even thought about it.

Out of sight, out of mind








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Northern Accounts and Systems
#59 - 2015-06-05 02:16:17 UTC
Falin Whalen wrote:
Entity wrote:
Really?

So you hand out unique ships as event reward and then just go "lol we'll reuse this skin because only a handful of people have it anyway. We don't care about upsetting customers that obtained those ships, we just care about getting a few more bucks from skins"

Thanks, CCP. Thanks a lot.

I guess I can look forward to seeing the skins of all the unique ships I have in the NEX store.

I can paint my car to look like a police car, but it's not a police car, because it doesn't have a cop motor, cop shocks, and it was made after catalytic converters so it runs terrible on regular gas. It is not the new Bluesmobile.


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Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2015-06-05 02:21:41 UTC
Entity wrote:
Elenahina wrote:
I'm missing the point I think.

All I see in the image is a blue stratios. What's so special about it?


Look up Stratios Emergency Responder

Yes, but it is a different ship than the regular Stratios in ways beyond just visuals.

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