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Apparently it is OK to reuse skins of unique ships

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Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2015-06-04 18:28:22 UTC
Emergency Responder Federation Navy Comets please
Kaaeliaa
Tyrannos Sunset
#22 - 2015-06-04 18:45:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaaeliaa
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Spaceship barbie tears are glorious.


As a known Spaceship Barbie in OOPE, comparison to OP is a joke.

OP is whining about his stupid e-peen toys no longer making his e-peen look big and hard. Nothing to do with visuals. /s

Edit: /s added, because I'm not famous at all.

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The Slayer
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#23 - 2015-06-04 18:53:28 UTC
This shouldn't matter. The ship that these people have will be called "Stratios". The ship you have in your hanger will still be called "Stratios Emergency Responder". Don't worry Entity nobody is going to take your special collection away from you.
The Slayer
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#24 - 2015-06-04 18:58:29 UTC
Oh wait never mind I see now "The visual identity of these ships is what makes them unique" - No I completely disagree. CCP are expected to update these ships every time there is a graphics update - If they didn't you and your little cabal of super richy richies would kick up SUCH a **** storm. I don't think its too much of an ask for them to be able to reuse these skins for other purposes.
Entity
X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
#25 - 2015-06-04 19:05:13 UTC
The Slayer wrote:
Oh wait never mind I see now "The visual identity of these ships is what makes them unique" - No I completely disagree. CCP are expected to update these ships every time there is a graphics update - If they didn't you and your little cabal of super richy richies would kick up SUCH a **** storm. I don't think its too much of an ask for them to be able to reuse these skins for other purposes.


There's no point reusing skins when the skins system is so enormously flexible as demonstrated by the "any skin on any ship" bug. Reusing unique ship skins is just cheap and disrespectful.

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Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#26 - 2015-06-04 19:05:50 UTC
Entity wrote:
Dersen Lowery wrote:
If the special ships never undock, does it matter? The hull's still rare.


Counter question: Why does it matter if they undock or not? This is a sandbox game. You do with your stuff whatever you want.


EVE is an MMO. If nobody else ever sees the ship, what it looks like hardly matters.

You're one of the lucky few who own a Stratios Emergency Responder. It would be immediately distinguishable on the overview if it ever undocked. I still don't see the problem.

And honestly, the pearl-clutching about how CCP should guarantee that certain arbitrary "investments" by a handful of arbitrarily space-rich capsuleers are always rare and profitable, and that even their outward appearance should be kept from the hoi polloi, is not something I'll ever understand. Enjoy what you have while you have it. It's all CCP's property anyway.

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Anthar Thebess
#27 - 2015-06-04 19:14:51 UTC
I really hope that when last unique ship of its class dies , CCP will allow to get unlimited number of them from LP store , but for huge amount of ISK and LP.

When i started play this game, after reading tons of guides all around eve i wanted one thing RAVEN! Roll , after a while i noticed there is a navy version, and about 2 days later someone linked in jita Raven State Issue!

For whole day i was searching web and systems , just to know where i can get one Lol

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Moth Eisig
#28 - 2015-06-04 19:16:51 UTC
If it's as big of a deal as you say it is, I'll trade my skinned Stratios for your Emergency Responder. I'll even throw in a couple thousand isk extra. I'll make the contract when I get home from work.
The Slayer
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#29 - 2015-06-04 19:17:15 UTC  |  Edited by: The Slayer
Entity wrote:
The Slayer wrote:
Oh wait never mind I see now "The visual identity of these ships is what makes them unique" - No I completely disagree. CCP are expected to update these ships every time there is a graphics update - If they didn't you and your little cabal of super richy richies would kick up SUCH a **** storm. I don't think its too much of an ask for them to be able to reuse these skins for other purposes.


There's no point reusing skins when the skins system is so enormously flexible as demonstrated by the "any skin on any ship" bug. Reusing unique ship skins is just cheap and disrespectful.


"Disrespectful"? Really? Who exactly are they disrispecting by making these ships available to more people than currently have them. I agree certain things should be restricted, items that were given away for to Tournament winners for example, but in the case of the item you listed and the others given away by these ill fated "competitions" on EVELotterytotallynotanRMTsite.com their very EXISTENCE was disrespectful, hence CCP deciding not to issue them any more. I have no issue with this skin being reused for something not as completely idiotic as the inital giveaways were.
Entity
X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
#30 - 2015-06-04 19:23:25 UTC
The Slayer wrote:
Entity wrote:
The Slayer wrote:
Oh wait never mind I see now "The visual identity of these ships is what makes them unique" - No I completely disagree. CCP are expected to update these ships every time there is a graphics update - If they didn't you and your little cabal of super richy richies would kick up SUCH a **** storm. I don't think its too much of an ask for them to be able to reuse these skins for other purposes.


There's no point reusing skins when the skins system is so enormously flexible as demonstrated by the "any skin on any ship" bug. Reusing unique ship skins is just cheap and disrespectful.


"Disrespectful"? Really? Who exactly are they disrispecting by making these ships available to more people than currently have them. I agree certain things should be restricted, items that were given away for to Tournament winners for example, but in the case of the item you listed and the others given away by these ill fated "competitions" on EVELotterytotallynotanRMTsite.com their very EXISTENCE was disrespectful, hence CCP deciding not to issue them any more.


Blame the owners of item X for the circumstances in which X entered the game. GJ Mr Strawman.

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Entity
X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
#31 - 2015-06-04 19:24:53 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
... and about 2 days later someone linked in jita Raven State Issue!

For whole day i was searching web and systems , just to know where i can get one Lol


I have one for sale.

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Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#32 - 2015-06-04 19:26:53 UTC
Entity wrote:
Falin Whalen wrote:
Entity wrote:
Really?

So you hand out unique ships as event reward and then just go "lol we'll reuse this skin because only a handful of people have it anyway. We don't care about upsetting customers that obtained those ships, we just care about getting a few more bucks from skins"

Thanks, CCP. Thanks a lot.

I guess I can look forward to seeing the skins of all the unique ships I have in the NEX store.

I can paint my car to look like a police car, but it's not a police car, because it doesn't have a cop motor, cop shocks, and it was made after catalytic converters so it runs terrible on regular gas. It is not the new Bluesmobile.


Except this is a video game. The visual identity is part of the allure of these things. the fact there's even a skins system proves my point looks matter.



I will never pay for a ship skin if it makes you feel better.
The Slayer
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#33 - 2015-06-04 19:27:24 UTC
Entity wrote:
Blame the owners of item X for the circumstances in which X entered the game. GJ Mr Strawman.


At what point did I blame you?
Yuri Ostrovskoy
Doomheim
#34 - 2015-06-04 19:35:32 UTC
Entity wrote:
Really?

So you hand out unique ships as event reward and then just go "lol we'll reuse this skin because only a handful of people have it anyway. We don't care about upsetting customers that obtained those ships, we just care about getting a few more bucks from skins"

Thanks, CCP. Thanks a lot.

I guess I can look forward to seeing the skins of all the unique ships I have in the NEX store.

Seriously though, the visual identity of these ships is part of what makes them unique. I think it's a bad call to reuse those skins. It's not good for the game in the long run.


What cracks me up, is people think they have an actual say in Ccps choices. We provide feedback sure, but in the ends, it's thier game, thier choices, not mine, yours, ours, but theirs.
Entity
X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
#35 - 2015-06-04 19:38:04 UTC
Yuri Ostrovskoy wrote:
What cracks me up, is people think they have an actual say in Ccps choices. We provide feedback sure, but in the ends, it's thier game, thier choices, not mine, yours, ours, but theirs.


There's a monument outside jita 4-4 that would like to have a word with you.

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Black Panpher
CastleKickers
Rote Kapelle
#36 - 2015-06-04 19:59:55 UTC
Nothing CCP does surprises me any more. I always expect to get screwed over in some way.
Yuri Ostrovskoy
Doomheim
#37 - 2015-06-04 20:06:16 UTC
Entity wrote:
Yuri Ostrovskoy wrote:
What cracks me up, is people think they have an actual say in Ccps choices. We provide feedback sure, but in the ends, it's thier game, thier choices, not mine, yours, ours, but theirs.


There's a monument outside jita 4-4 that would like to have a word with you.


Prffftt, you see my corp name? I ain't goin to jita, not again. Dear god, the carnage. Timmy didn't even make it out, and Dave....daaavvvvveee....
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#38 - 2015-06-04 20:46:54 UTC
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#39 - 2015-06-04 20:55:37 UTC
Entity wrote:
Dersen Lowery wrote:
If the special ships never undock, does it matter? The hull's still rare.


Counter question: Why does it matter if they undock or not? This is a sandbox game. You do with your stuff whatever you want.


CCP decided that in their sandbox they can use what is theirs (any art asset in the game) and did what they wanted with it (sell it as a skin).

I guess they followed your exact definition of sandbox.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#40 - 2015-06-04 20:56:34 UTC
Entity wrote:
Yuri Ostrovskoy wrote:
What cracks me up, is people think they have an actual say in Ccps choices. We provide feedback sure, but in the ends, it's thier game, thier choices, not mine, yours, ours, but theirs.


There's a monument outside jita 4-4 that would like to have a word with you.


Why don't you go shoot it over this stupid crying?