Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So I have an issue with the new overview icons. Because of vision issues I have most of the new icons are just red or grey blurry patches to me unless I lean in close to the monitor and strain my eyes. I seems like maybe these icons are very 'busy' for how small they are, i'm not entirely sure. I never really had any issues with the old icons, maybe because they had cleaner lines?
I've read that people are having a hard time differentiating between frigs and dessies. I'm having a spot of trouble between all ship classes, even frigs and battleships.
It's clear a large number of players like the new icons, and I don't begrudge them that. These changes make a lot of sense for the most part (i'm looking at you Asteroid Belt Icon). All I'm really hoping for is just the option to use the old icons. I think nearly everyone wins that way.

Ah, the fun "can we just have both?" question. Unfortunately, the work load and server load on maintaining two variations of the same thing simultaneously would reach horrid levels. Don't get me wrong, the "new" is never a guaranteed better than the "old". I, and I'm pretty sure even CCP, would love for it to be that simple.

Concerning the difficulties with discerning some ship types with others, I'm with you that the icons could stand a bit of adjustment to make the deference between some more pronounced and easier to register. For example, battlecruisers and battleships have differing shaped icons, but they are nearly identical size, making it alarmingly difficult at times to quickly rely on them for information.

As far as them overall being two small to make out, are you by any chance set to 90% scaling? I had to switch to 100% just to be able to see the damn things myself after having been on 90% since UI scaling was added as a setting. Sucks, I know, but what do ya do? People have already brought up the fact that if we thought 90% was bad before, it's far worst for these icons now, making that setting on anything besides 1440 or higher a joke. Hopefully, CCP will be willing to make some tweaks soon to make them easier to see and tell the deference amongst them.

I actually love them

agreed, ive been known to shoot from MTU's depending on whose around, I went into an anom and saw MTU's every where...then they started shooting me, I also tried to shoot some MTUs on a gate to find out it was a player in a frig, im going to be a ganker before long because of this crap

Unnecessary complexity? Small medium and large are more clearly differentiated now than simply different sized brackets. On that alone you get the same info as before but more clear. Everything beyond that is additional information that can be processed by the player or not, to their advantage or not.



This would be remotely believable if rats werent still red and the mtu icon was even slightly reminiscent to a frig icon.

Agreed. They take some getting used to but they are much better. They do need to fix the resolution of them when using scaling but at 100% they are easy to read.

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I agree with paranoid Lloyd 100%.

i started a thread for icon preferences/customization where players should be able to choose their own icons like how they choose to set up their overviews. ill post a link to my thread below

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=427798&find=unread

Yeah, 100% didn't quite cut it, still straining my eyes until 125%. After seeing them somewhat clearly I can see why some people are fans. But if i'm playing at 125% it's going from Eve Online to Constantly Scrolling Online. Also, it's like if Fisher Price or Blizzard made the game everything is so big and chunky. Don't think I could ever get used to that.