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Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#21 - 2015-06-04 06:48:55 UTC
You don't have to be harsh to be instructive or informative. It's just that some people get a rush out of rubbing other people's noses in it. Then, to make it appear they aren't really that petty, they rationalize it away...or try to anyway.

It's nice to be important. It's more important to be nice. Playing an MMO doesn't change that. People who just aren't nice see these venues as a place where that behavior is excused...by others like them playing in these venues.

There just isn't anything that can be said!
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#22 - 2015-06-04 06:50:44 UTC
Shederov Blood wrote:
Harrison Tato wrote:
And it's life and death! Oh wait, it's a game. You lost some pixels and pocket change!
That's what you got from reading that post? You're weird. Sure you quoted the right one? What?
To be fair I got the same sort of impression. A lot of you here take things far too seriously. It's a game bro, who cares if someone wants to try something and fail? That's happens all the time in nearly every game.

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Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2015-06-04 07:03:00 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Shederov Blood wrote:
Harrison Tato wrote:
And it's life and death! Oh wait, it's a game. You lost some pixels and pocket change!
That's what you got from reading that post? You're weird. Sure you quoted the right one? What?
To be fair I got the same sort of impression. A lot of you here take things far too seriously. It's a game bro, who cares if someone wants to try something and fail? That's happens all the time in nearly every game.

You're right it is a game. Players give other players (ingame)authority in the hopes of gaining a greater game experience.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#24 - 2015-06-04 09:02:35 UTC
i chose mine because i wanted immerse myself into the the Angel Cartel story Pirate, i knew i chose the right corp because i was having fun again

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
BrundleMeth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2015-06-04 10:17:22 UTC
Azda Ja wrote:

I think people here don't really realize how great a community we actually do have. Have any of you ever looked at another game's forums? It's a cesspool. We all butt heads and troll each other here and there, but by and large we're one big happy (if dysfunctional) family compared to other game's forums IMO.

I don't think so, not at all. For the one "good" person, there are a hundred who only want to profit at your expense. Just look at the "Can I have your stuff" posts. And the "We want your tears" posts. And the enormous amount of scammers at the trade hubs. And the numerous recruitment scams. And look at those CODE trash...Animals all of them...
flakeys
Doomheim
#26 - 2015-06-04 10:25:43 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
baltec1 wrote:
Aza Ebanu wrote:

Perhaps we have been too harsh in our assumptions about why many players don't join player corps. how did you choose your current player corp? How and when did you know you had found what you wanted?


We came here together as refugees from SWG when the NGE hit.



Same here , came solo to eve when the NGE hit .Found a bunch of other newbro's , wich at the time most people where , and we dived into null-sec to seek out fame and fortune.We got neither but did have a lot of fun , i still am in contact with most of these guys even after 10 years and all being in different corporations and totally different playstyles.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
flakeys
Doomheim
#27 - 2015-06-04 10:29:03 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Shederov Blood wrote:
Harrison Tato wrote:
And it's life and death! Oh wait, it's a game. You lost some pixels and pocket change!
That's what you got from reading that post? You're weird. Sure you quoted the right one? What?
To be fair I got the same sort of impression. A lot of you here take things far too seriously. It's a game bro, who cares if someone wants to try something and fail? That's happens all the time in nearly every game.



You mean someone like gevlon ? Big smile

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2015-06-04 13:50:54 UTC
BrundleMeth wrote:
Azda Ja wrote:

I think people here don't really realize how great a community we actually do have. Have any of you ever looked at another game's forums? It's a cesspool. We all butt heads and troll each other here and there, but by and large we're one big happy (if dysfunctional) family compared to other game's forums IMO.

I don't think so, not at all. For the one "good" person, there are a hundred who only want to profit at your expense. Just look at the "Can I have your stuff" posts. And the "We want your tears" posts. And the enormous amount of scammers at the trade hubs. And the numerous recruitment scams. And look at those CODE trash...Animals all of them...

People like you dehumanizing and calling others animals worries me more than people getting their kicks blowing spaceships up.

Grrr.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#29 - 2015-06-04 13:57:25 UTC
Azda Ja wrote:
BrundleMeth wrote:
Azda Ja wrote:

I think people here don't really realize how great a community we actually do have. Have any of you ever looked at another game's forums? It's a cesspool. We all butt heads and troll each other here and there, but by and large we're one big happy (if dysfunctional) family compared to other game's forums IMO.

I don't think so, not at all. For the one "good" person, there are a hundred who only want to profit at your expense. Just look at the "Can I have your stuff" posts. And the "We want your tears" posts. And the enormous amount of scammers at the trade hubs. And the numerous recruitment scams. And look at those CODE trash...Animals all of them...

People like you dehumanizing and calling others animals worries me more than people getting their kicks blowing spaceships up.


People liek that have to do that, have to 'dehumanize' others, that's how they get to feel good about themselves. It's just an indicator of a weak and impotent ego, nothing anyone can do about that.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#30 - 2015-06-04 14:29:50 UTC
Funny thing is this... the moment I first encountered CODE. my hackles went up. I was still mining at the time.
Then I stopped and took a good hard look at it. Their dogma is ENGINEERED to **** you off. It's not an accident that it's inflammatory, it was done on purpose. You couple that with them entrenching sound advice for how to play smart into it all and you get what we have now... a bazillion of threads about them by/for/against them. It's supposed to be divisive.

Whenever you get your rage on about them you enable them. And i'm seriously not trying to derail things here, just put them into perspective. The best response is a simple 'calm down miner' aimed right across their bow and then summarily carry on as though nothing had happened. Recognition fuels, enables, and empowers them. If you have a real problem with them, ignore them.

And that being said, it's also a bad thing for me to be bored and drunk at the same time.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#31 - 2015-06-04 14:35:19 UTC
This is what you said, and all of it is true.

Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Funny thing is this... the moment I first encountered CODE. my hackles went up. I was still mining at the time.
Then I stopped and took a good hard look at it. Their dogma is ENGINEERED to **** you off. It's not an accident that it's inflammatory, it was done on purpose. You couple that with them entrenching sound advice for how to play smart into it all and you get what we have now... a bazillion of threads about them by/for/against them. It's supposed to be divisive.

Whenever you get your rage on about them you enable them. And i'm seriously not trying to derail things here, just put them into perspective. The best response is a simple 'calm down miner' aimed right across their bow and then summarily carry on as though nothing had happened. Recognition fuels, enables, and empowers them. If you have a real problem with them, ignore them.

And that being said, it's also a bad thing for me to be bored and drunk at the same time.



This is what "they" heard:

Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Blah, blah, blah, madness, blah, blah sociopaths, blah, blah, bullies, blah blah bad in real life blah
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#32 - 2015-06-04 14:36:51 UTC
Azda Ja wrote:
BrundleMeth wrote:
Azda Ja wrote:

I think people here don't really realize how great a community we actually do have. Have any of you ever looked at another game's forums? It's a cesspool. We all butt heads and troll each other here and there, but by and large we're one big happy (if dysfunctional) family compared to other game's forums IMO.

I don't think so, not at all. For the one "good" person, there are a hundred who only want to profit at your expense. Just look at the "Can I have your stuff" posts. And the "We want your tears" posts. And the enormous amount of scammers at the trade hubs. And the numerous recruitment scams. And look at those CODE trash...Animals all of them...

People like you dehumanizing and calling others animals worries me more than people getting their kicks blowing spaceships up.

Don't, he's just goading you Blink

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#33 - 2015-06-04 14:36:54 UTC
And people wonder why I do murder when I get bored.
I am obviously the maladjusted one.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#34 - 2015-06-04 14:59:45 UTC
The truest part of that statement was the thing about me being bored and drunk at the same time.

It truly is a bad thing that leads to bad decisions.

Jenn, some day I hope to land on grid with you. At that point I shall gleefully steal at least one of your metal scraps in hope that you shoot me. If you do and subsequently win, know well that I shall be to paraphrase Feyd, "giggling like a retrad playing with a booger".
\o/

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#35 - 2015-06-04 16:09:35 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Shederov Blood wrote:
Harrison Tato wrote:
And it's life and death! Oh wait, it's a game. You lost some pixels and pocket change!
That's what you got from reading that post? You're weird. Sure you quoted the right one? What?
To be fair I got the same sort of impression. A lot of you here take things far too seriously. It's a game bro, who cares if someone wants to try something and fail? That's happens all the time in nearly every game.


Exactly!
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2015-06-04 17:55:01 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
The truest part of that statement was the thing about me being bored and drunk at the same time.

It truly is a bad thing that leads to bad decisions.

Jenn, some day I hope to land on grid with you. At that point I shall gleefully steal at least one of your metal scraps in hope that you shoot me. If you do and subsequently win, know well that I shall be to paraphrase Feyd, "giggling like a retrad playing with a booger".
\o/


Rattlesnake bonused Gecko is meaner than any assault frigate and has more EHP. You don't want that.
Deuce McGuilicuddy
Jebediah's Minimally Invasive Salvage and Recovery
#37 - 2015-06-04 19:28:45 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Funny thing is this... the moment I first encountered CODE. my hackles went up. I was still mining at the time.
Then I stopped and took a good hard look at it. Their dogma is ENGINEERED to **** you off. It's not an accident that it's inflammatory, it was done on purpose. You couple that with them entrenching sound advice for how to play smart into it all and you get what we have now... a bazillion of threads about them by/for/against them. It's supposed to be divisive.


I agree. To add to that point, any good story needs a good villain. CODE, while they may **** miners and haulers off to no end, bring a different flavor to this game. Yeah, to the average hi sec dweller its bitter as hell, but bitter ingredients have their place in many recipes. A few months ago my freighter alt was bumped and extorted by the esteemed scourge of the Jita-pipe chokepoints, Siegfried Cohenberg. My web alt is fast, but his machariel's MWD must be powered by the very fires of hell itself. I paid the ransom, because that's how extortion works, then proceeded to hang out in their ransom channel for the next few months. Was I mad? Not a bit. Did I stop hauling? Hell no. I went back to the drawing board and streamlined the fitting for my web alt. And knowing him and his people are out there, waiting for me to slip up and make a mistake, adds a layer of challenge to a laughably boring career. Will I join CODE? Probably not. But I do support their playstyle and I will acknowledge that they add a layer to the dynamics of hi sec that I would personally miss if they were gone.
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2015-06-04 19:32:55 UTC
Deuce McGuilicuddy wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Funny thing is this... the moment I first encountered CODE. my hackles went up. I was still mining at the time.
Then I stopped and took a good hard look at it. Their dogma is ENGINEERED to **** you off. It's not an accident that it's inflammatory, it was done on purpose. You couple that with them entrenching sound advice for how to play smart into it all and you get what we have now... a bazillion of threads about them by/for/against them. It's supposed to be divisive.


I agree. To add to that point, any good story needs a good villain. CODE, while they may **** miners and haulers off to no end, bring a different flavor to this game. Yeah, to the average hi sec dweller its bitter as hell, but bitter ingredients have their place in many recipes. A few months ago my freighter alt was bumped and extorted by the esteemed scourge of the Jita-pipe chokepoints, Siegfried Cohenberg. My web alt is fast, but his machariel's MWD must be powered by the very fires of hell itself. I paid the ransom, because that's how extortion works, then proceeded to hang out in their ransom channel for the next few months. Was I mad? Not a bit. Did I stop hauling? Hell no. I went back to the drawing board and streamlined the fitting for my web alt. And knowing him and his people are out there, waiting for me to slip up and make a mistake, adds a layer of challenge to a laughably boring career. Will I join CODE? Probably not. But I do support their playstyle and I will acknowledge that they add a layer to the dynamics of hi sec that I would personally miss if they were gone.


There no doubt about it, there is something special about code. I think before them, there were independents, but it is interesting to see it done on a corporate level.
Nevil Oscillator
#39 - 2015-06-04 21:18:34 UTC
I knew nothing about Eve when I started playing, I didn't even know it was a MORPG.
A buddy recommended it in a rather enthusiastic manner so I logged in on a trial account and did my best to figure out how a rookie ship works.
Later I realised that it doesn't.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#40 - 2015-06-04 21:48:24 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
The truest part of that statement was the thing about me being bored and drunk at the same time.

It truly is a bad thing that leads to bad decisions.

Jenn, some day I hope to land on grid with you. At that point I shall gleefully steal at least one of your metal scraps in hope that you shoot me. If you do and subsequently win, know well that I shall be to paraphrase Feyd, "giggling like a retrad playing with a booger".
\o/


Rattlesnake bonused Gecko is meaner than any assault frigate and has more EHP. You don't want that.

true but we were taught well.

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