Player Features and Ideas Discussion

No, because people should not be forced to jiggle the mouse every few minutes. The OA is supposedly going to make it possible to find a cloaked ship. The details have not been presented, but my guess is that it will make AFK cloaking rather difficult if not impossible.

I also think that local should be transitioned to a delayed chat channel--i.e. you only show up if you type something, and that you get your intel via the OA. And since the OA would be vulnerable to attack intel is no longer flawless and invulnerable to attack. I'd also like to have intel be vulnerable to subversion as well.

Observatory Array, a new anchorable structure coming Soon™. It has its own sticky thread along with Gates.

But nobody is forcing you to undock with neutrals in local. Either stay safe, go to another system, or fit a PvP capable ship so that you can defend yourself.

The point of the hyperbole is that it's one sided.

You can't fit much in the way of a PvP miner. Scroll up a few pages and read, if your goal is PvE you are forced into ships that cannot compete, or at best are very poor choices for PvP.

It's a sandbox game about being able to make meaningful choices and enjoy/suffer real consequences. It should not be weighted in favor of the mouth breathing baby eaters.

The Gankbears are advocating that they be allowed a perfectly safe and absolutely passive method of 'hunting' to prevent PvE pilots from being 'too safe' or being at all passive themselves.

I don't actually want cloaks to destroy your ship. I want to be able to hunt them back and blow them up myself, if I decide to do so.

Yet it's not balanced.

It's supposed to be a game. Games are contests, and right now the cloaked has no competition. He gets to literally sit back and only engage the equivalent of ducks in a barrel.

The only way to beat him is not to play.

That's a pretty poor piece of game design.

That is a ridiculous argument. He is free to do anything he wants except lock me. He can get in perfect position, call friends and hotdrop, or just pick his moment and wait for something else to be going on. Effortlessly, at no cost, and even his own innatention just serves to put him in a better spot later.

Of course he can kill me. There is next to no cost to fit a cloak in the utility high of a perfectly effective PvP ship. It is insane to ignore the presence of a hostile in system, and anyone who does deserves the gank.

If he was at risk from *something* that required his constant attention while cloaked it would be balanced. Right now it's not, and the claims that local makes it balanced, or that Null is too safe, or anything else that is getting used as an excuse to leave such an obviously broken mechanic in place is just idiotic. The people advocating these broken cloaks are just as risk adverse as the people they are supposedly hunting.

It needs balanced, or the system changed so that PvE is inconsequential to the game as a whole. Let ships be free and we just turn EVE into a spaceship version of battlefield. I prefer actual balance. Where everyone gets to have fun, but that's just me.

I should have thought of this ages ago.

Soap Bubble Cyno effect.

The cyno, when activated, is highly vulnerable to external affects.
It can be easily popped by any EM weapon, or possibly any weapon at all.

Putting one on grid with a hostile, is risky.
(Ships in transit will be dumped into the nearest OTHER system, the cyno's collapse causing a rebound effect blocking travelers from landing in the original intended system)

Now that is rich given that you advocate eliminating a style of play in a very one sided manner. And your exaggerations are also becoming tiresome. Yes cloaks increase one's safety while travelling, but they are not perfect. People do die in cloaked ships often at gates....while hunting.

Oh and tell us about how you are going to hunt a ship where the player is AFK. Yes, you are indeed interested in PvP. More like shooting fish in a barrel.

I love this thread.

Question for the waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacloakies gang......how does ANY PvP happen in a wormhole at ALL? Could it be they do not share the "I'm a huge pussy" attitude?

Dscan.