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The new messy "brackets" finally coming June 2nd
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highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#61 - 2015-06-03 11:51:44 UTC
People will get used to them. Doesn't mean you have to like them. CCP wanted to change them and they did. It was unnecessary but they spent time doing it anyway. I'll get used to the new icons eventually.. I like the gate/station/JB icons but the ship Icons are still too much.. The different Icons make it easier to distinguish ship types on the fly but they are too busy for such a small icon and some hard to tell exactly what it is. Like the TCU Icon.. it looks like a caldari scan frigate (buzzard)

FC, what do?
The Slayer
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#62 - 2015-06-03 11:53:35 UTC
I don't at all see how "lots of different square boxes" can possibly be considered any clearer than "lots of differently shaped icons".
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#63 - 2015-06-03 11:57:00 UTC
The Slayer wrote:
I don't at all see how "lots of different square boxes" can possibly be considered any clearer than "lots of differently shaped icons".


Because every square box was a piloted ship, and everything else was an icon.

Now, all is an icon, even player ships.
The Slayer
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#64 - 2015-06-03 12:25:17 UTC  |  Edited by: The Slayer
Lloyd Roses wrote:
The Slayer wrote:
I don't at all see how "lots of different square boxes" can possibly be considered any clearer than "lots of differently shaped icons".


Because every square box was a piloted ship, and everything else was an icon.

Now, all is an icon, even player ships.


If you were using a PVP interface with anything other than square boxes on it you are doing it wrong tbh. And now that same interface should only have player ships on it.
Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
#65 - 2015-06-03 12:40:35 UTC
Alrik Craven wrote:
I don't what to complain to ask for the old one icons.

But just the one we have here on the dev blog few mouth ago...
What happened ?

Those icons was far way better and clear

DEV Blog : http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/ui-modernization-icon-strategy/


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The Slayer
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#66 - 2015-06-03 13:02:00 UTC
Yeh to be fair the concepts were a step above what we actually have in game
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#67 - 2015-06-03 14:51:28 UTC
The Slayer wrote:
Lloyd Roses wrote:
The Slayer wrote:
I don't at all see how "lots of different square boxes" can possibly be considered any clearer than "lots of differently shaped icons".


Because every square box was a piloted ship, and everything else was an icon.

Now, all is an icon, even player ships.


If you were using a PVP interface with anything other than square boxes on it you are doing it wrong tbh. And now that same interface should only have player ships on it.


My pvp overview also has things like MTUs, mobile depots and beacons on it. Your's probably doesn't but it doesn't matter since you only need the broadcast history to start with.
The Slayer
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#68 - 2015-06-03 15:49:40 UTC
Lloyd Roses wrote:
The Slayer wrote:
Lloyd Roses wrote:
The Slayer wrote:
I don't at all see how "lots of different square boxes" can possibly be considered any clearer than "lots of differently shaped icons".


Because every square box was a piloted ship, and everything else was an icon.

Now, all is an icon, even player ships.


If you were using a PVP interface with anything other than square boxes on it you are doing it wrong tbh. And now that same interface should only have player ships on it.


My pvp overview also has things like MTUs, mobile depots and beacons on it. Your's probably doesn't but it doesn't matter since you only need the broadcast history to start with.


I can understand needing depots and beacons on an overview sure, but MTUS? Also can't you just have 2 tabs, one for ships and one for all the other fluff? I'll post my overview when I get back home and show you how I have it set up to avoid this sort of thing.
Portmanteau
Iron Krosz
#69 - 2015-06-03 15:57:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Portmanteau
Lloyd Roses wrote:
The Slayer wrote:
Lloyd Roses wrote:
The Slayer wrote:
I don't at all see how "lots of different square boxes" can possibly be considered any clearer than "lots of differently shaped icons".


Because every square box was a piloted ship, and everything else was an icon.

Now, all is an icon, even player ships.


If you were using a PVP interface with anything other than square boxes on it you are doing it wrong tbh. And now that same interface should only have player ships on it.


My pvp overview also has things like MTUs, mobile depots and beacons on it. Your's probably doesn't but it doesn't matter since you only need the broadcast history to start with.


This... ppl who F1 pvp not getting that others may actually need to be aware of the objects surrounding them. Roll
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#70 - 2015-06-03 16:12:15 UTC
and you will get used to them. they really werre not that hard, will take some getting used too. even jita undock i was able to start figuring out what was what

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#71 - 2015-06-03 16:26:51 UTC
Portmanteau wrote:
Lloyd Roses wrote:
The Slayer wrote:
Lloyd Roses wrote:
The Slayer wrote:
I don't at all see how "lots of different square boxes" can possibly be considered any clearer than "lots of differently shaped icons".


Because every square box was a piloted ship, and everything else was an icon.

Now, all is an icon, even player ships.


If you were using a PVP interface with anything other than square boxes on it you are doing it wrong tbh. And now that same interface should only have player ships on it.


My pvp overview also has things like MTUs, mobile depots and beacons on it. Your's probably doesn't but it doesn't matter since you only need the broadcast history to start with.


This... ppl who F1 pvp not getting that others may actually need to be aware of the objects surrounding them. Roll


Now that was a burn , I'm a dirty blobber from blobistan myself and I can appreciate the burn-iness of this reply lol.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#72 - 2015-06-03 16:56:08 UTC
The Slayer wrote:
I can understand needing depots and beacons on an overview sure, but MTUS?


Ganking is just another form of pve.

That said, indicating MTUs as essential was a mess up on my part, but when the main motivation for pvp is to get to the fitted green/blue parts, MTUs are important. Making sure you don't lose another half to a disgruntled loot fairy.
Satan's Spawn
Satan's Enterprises
#73 - 2015-06-03 17:30:05 UTC
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:
Like most things in eve they needed to be updated, you'll get used to them.


why? (... did they need to be updated) ... were they causing anyone any issues? any problems? Then update would be justified. If the "upgrade" adds beneifts, then there's justification. What benefits have been brought?

Just curious, why this has happened, that's all. Willing to be convinced.

Change for the sake of change is pointless and a waste of time and money.

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#74 - 2015-06-03 17:39:57 UTC
Rargh - things are different!

I hate it when I expect things to stay the same and suddenly they aren't the same anymore!

Rabble Rabble!


Personally, I like that I can tell a destroyer from a frigate now, and a cruiser from a battlecruiser. That little difference alone is a solid improvement. I'm sure I'll get used to the other changes as well.

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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2015-06-03 17:55:10 UTC
Some portion of the issue IMO is communication ... Fozzie is a good communicator and managed his game-changing Sov topic quite well. He communicates early, he listens, he adapts and communicates again. None so with the icons, after the initial blog and a withdrawal in the last minute, we now just got them announced by a footnote in the patch notes. Everybody not on SiSi was hit between the eyes with a massive game-change on patch day. Even the maps developers know their new map is nice but crap for scanning and keep it optional for now.

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#76 - 2015-06-03 19:50:42 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Some portion of the issue IMO is communication ... Fozzie is a good communicator and managed his game-changing Sov topic quite well. He communicates early, he listens, he adapts and communicates again. None so with the icons, after the initial blog and a withdrawal in the last minute, we now just got them announced by a footnote in the patch notes. Everybody not on SiSi was hit between the eyes with a massive game-change on patch day. Even the maps developers know their new map is nice but crap for scanning and keep it optional for now.


It might not have made it to a secondary devblog, but there was an update thread about a month ago sticked in the Test Server thread, for those that are interested in upcoming feature testing.

Granted, your point is valid about communication levels, but the information was out there.

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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2015-06-03 21:52:51 UTC
War Kitten wrote:

It might not have made it to a secondary devblog, but there was an update thread about a month ago sticked in the Test Server thread, for those that are interested in upcoming feature testing.

I know and this makes it even worse, because the feedback was given to CCP and just ignored.

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