EVE General Discussion

This thread is so freaking entertaining. All he asked about was a grind-for-SP system, but players are answering every other question under the sun star.

I reject the op and substitute it with something more entertaining.

Really, none of us want to explain again why the notion of being able to keep pace with unemployed 19yolds despite having family's ,jobs,education is a beautiful thing.

Don't forget, he also advocated discrimination against gankers and criminals. I'm a lot less friendly when people do that.

I'm not seeking victory of any kind.
My statement there has truth behind it.
If you don't take the time to learn how to properly use the tools in your toolbox, you're more likely to break something than fix it when you try.
Actual pilot experience wins over SP. I'm pretty bad at most forms of PVP and if I run up against someone who has just as many SP as me but is not bad... I am most likely going to lose.

OP, unfortunately you won't get much support for such an idea on these forums, or indeed for any idea that hurts the feelings of HTFU bittervets who waited for their skills to train and can't handle the idea of a new system that rewards skill points at a faster rate then they obtained them 'back in the day'.

You will also note the amusing bare-faced hypocrisy of players arguing that speedier acquisition of SP amounts to an unfair advantage, and yet the very same people will argue that SP is not important. Go and read the SP thread in F&I for a good chuckle.

I support the idea of a means to gain SP faster, particularly for new players. But you'll find that the community on the official forums is highly averse to any changes which give new players an 'easier' time than they had when they first started playing. You'll find a more reasonable audience on the EVE subreddit.

The only feature even remotely resembling a "skill point boost" that I would advocate: the ability to reallocate SP, at the cost of a neural remap (not purchasable by PLEX or any other means). And, that allocation would be at a severe penalty - let's say at a 3 to 1 ratio (reallocating 3,000,000 SP in 'wasted' or 'unwanted' skills would give you 1,000,000 usable SP), maybe even 4 to 1 ratio.

The only ways this would work are:

1. The base skillpoint allocation at char creation is slightly higher than current.

Outcome: The alt-trains remove the concept of reputation, which was a key feature to EVE's universe, and destablises the community.

Running the Career agents can be done quite quickly, with all 5 career agents for a given faction couple, repeated for all 3 stations, for each half of the faction couple: Amarr/Caldari || Minmatar/Gallente within 2 days after the char creation. 30 storyline chains

That's effective standing of 3.0 with each part of the 'faction couple'.

At this point there are many options to pursue which start off difficult and either get easier as time progresses (training weapons / defences) or remains hard (training PI and reprocessing).


2. Career Agents afford 'level boost' to skills like survey (explo guide), Weapons system x (complete both military agents for a given station), Indy (both business and industry agents).

Outcome:

Astero Train

It, in fact, doesn't work. The good thing is it doesn't even need to happen.

Most content is available a couple of days after registration.

Hi-Sec Ganking - 1 month pilot training
Explo Frig - 1 Month
FW Frig - rock paper scissors
Level 3 missions - accepted after 30 career agents are complete
WH / L4 / Null PvP - 2 months, competitive after 4 months, fine after 7 months.

What really blows my mind is how many ass holes from NPC corps create threads like this. What was going through your mind when you thought you had this great idea that was smarter than what the devs came up with? What reality do you live in that is different from 99% of the players who prefer this system over killing boars in the enchanted gay forest? How long will it take an ISD to lock this garbage?

No what you will create is called World of Warcraft with spaceships. You can't log on and fly a carrier in week 1. GO AWAY

Well, of course it's clear to anyone reading that what I suggested would do no such thing. But please continue to try to shut the thread down with silly baseless rants.