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Drone for dreadnaught, titan.

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Mecatama Mk2
AMC.
Out of the Blue.
#1 - 2015-05-28 06:21:20 UTC
Dreadnaught, titan have drone. but not sentry drone. (old time dreadnaught have it and remove)
these have special drone. and only for dreadnaught, only for titan.

i call Siege Battery Drone, Heavy Siege Battery drone.
SBD for dreadnaught. HSBD for titan.

SBD and HSBD similar BIG sentry drone. but somepoint differ:

- these EX-size, same fighter/fighter bomber

- these have deploy time. it's not reduce from skill, module and others.
use hotdrop these not can helpful.

- these operate on sige mod.
(H)SBD differ from fighter, figher bomber. SBD is not movement, just hit and shoot. that is invisble crewman control :)

- big signature resolution. low tracking, long range
simple. if these shoot subcap it's hard. it's for VS long range cap- and supercap.

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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#2 - 2015-05-28 06:25:45 UTC
Given all the restrictions you suggest for them, I have to ask, "why bother?" I do not see anything that adds anything to the game except making newer Titan pilots have to train a bunch of drone skills. They do not seem to add anything that the turrets do not already do better.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Kashadin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-05-28 06:26:56 UTC
wha...what?
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#4 - 2015-05-28 06:27:00 UTC
No. This lets their drones have a reasonable chance to threaten a HIC. This is bad, as unsupported caps are supposed to die.

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joecuster
Anime Masters
#5 - 2015-05-28 08:54:29 UTC
Go back to WoW. This post only shows you have never been around capitals.
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#6 - 2015-05-28 09:10:19 UTC
Dreads and Titans lost there dronebays for a good reason.

Not supported.

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Jumbo Dongers
Doomheim
#7 - 2015-05-28 10:50:06 UTC
Does this post have any correlation with your corp having it's krab fleet whelped?
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2015-05-28 13:19:11 UTC
After spending several minutes understanding the grammar of your post, I suggest you look up why drones were removed from those capital ships in the first place.
Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#9 - 2015-05-28 15:38:45 UTC
Moving capitals and supercapitals more towards independent operating entities is a step in a bad direction.

For the most part your average pilot can maintain a carrier or a dread, usually both, but once you give dreads drones or titans drones they start to be able to rely less on smaller supporting ships to keep them out of trouble and more on their own hull and excessive ability to react to any situation.
Even with these restrictions it begs the question "Should we do this? Do we take the step back?" Right now dreads are in a good spot, except maybe the revelation but still. Titans need surgery to fix their roles, but drones isnt what they need, its the last thing they need in fact.

Those drones were removed for a reason, its best we leave that elephant graveyard to rest.

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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-05-28 15:49:46 UTC
No. Bring support.

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Goldensaver
Maraque Enterprises
Just let it happen
#11 - 2015-05-28 17:26:59 UTC
It's like half the posters didn't read or understand the OP... and I can't totally blame them.

That being said, I don't totally understand the need for these capital sized sentries on dreads and supercap sentries on Titans, and feel that the extra training is unnecessary. Only thing I can see is that he wants to amp the power of Dreads and Titans in long duration battles, but he wants to do it without buffing them straight up and making hotdrops more powerful (that's what he talked about in the OP).

So... I dunno, I don't think they need the extra power, personally. Meh, I don't have enough experience running them though, so what do I know?
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#12 - 2015-05-28 17:40:53 UTC
Goldensaver wrote:
It's like half the posters didn't read or understand the OP... and I can't totally blame them.

That being said, I don't totally understand the need for these capital sized sentries on dreads and supercap sentries on Titans, and feel that the extra training is unnecessary. Only thing I can see is that he wants to amp the power of Dreads and Titans in long duration battles, but he wants to do it without buffing them straight up and making hotdrops more powerful (that's what he talked about in the OP).

So... I dunno, I don't think they need the extra power, personally. Meh, I don't have enough experience running them though, so what do I know?


This was my understanding as well. Still not supported.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Mecatama Mk2
AMC.
Out of the Blue.
#13 - 2015-05-30 23:27:50 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
Given all the restrictions you suggest for them, I have to ask, "why bother?" I do not see anything that adds anything to the game except making newer Titan pilots have to train a bunch of drone skills. They do not seem to add anything that the turrets do not already do better.

it's funny imagine.
'km' size ship, it is Capital. but only use gun.

well, after rebalance. and far far future.

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Tykonderoga
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2015-05-31 15:15:46 UTC
Christopher Mabata wrote:
Moving capitals and supercapitals more towards independent operating entities is a step in a bad direction.

For the most part your average pilot can maintain a carrier or a dread, usually both, but once you give dreads drones or titans drones they start to be able to rely less on smaller supporting ships to keep them out of trouble and more on their own hull and excessive ability to react to any situation.
Even with these restrictions it begs the question "Should we do this? Do we take the step back?" Right now dreads are in a good spot, except maybe the revelation but still. Titans need surgery to fix their roles, but drones isnt what they need, its the last thing they need in fact.

Those drones were removed for a reason, its best we leave that elephant graveyard to rest.



Actually, s. H it. Lord from no name alliance and corp, dreads are in a really ****** place after the next patch due to a dearth of things for them to shoot and provoke conflict. Supers and titans will be in a similar situation with magic-wand sov.
Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#15 - 2015-05-31 15:55:49 UTC
Tykonderoga wrote:
Christopher Mabata wrote:
Moving capitals and supercapitals more towards independent operating entities is a step in a bad direction.

For the most part your average pilot can maintain a carrier or a dread, usually both, but once you give dreads drones or titans drones they start to be able to rely less on smaller supporting ships to keep them out of trouble and more on their own hull and excessive ability to react to any situation.
Even with these restrictions it begs the question "Should we do this? Do we take the step back?" Right now dreads are in a good spot, except maybe the revelation but still. Titans need surgery to fix their roles, but drones isnt what they need, its the last thing they need in fact.

Those drones were removed for a reason, its best we leave that elephant graveyard to rest.



Actually, s. H it. Lord from no name alliance and corp, dreads are in a really ****** place after the next patch due to a dearth of things for them to shoot and provoke conflict. Supers and titans will be in a similar situation with magic-wand sov.



Because in the game of alts who you choose to post with on the forums is so critical Roll perhaps i just prefer not to subscribe to blob warfare and detest flying with large numbers of pilots like NCDock? Perhaps i prefer Smaller gang operations with friends across multiple corps and alliances? But lets not digress here, none of this thread is about me, its about the topic.

If you cant envision a place for capitals, supers, and titans in Sov 5.0 your not thinking about the bigger picture, your only concerned with the 5,000 man cap blobs. There will still be a need for Structure bashes just not the huge ones for stations like we saw in HED-GP. Plenty of new destructible deployables too. Sov will now be more dynamic and complex, rather than a match of i dropped more supers and dreads first, now the server wont handle anymore, get rekt

Or have you ever considered shooting other ships with your dreads? Seems like a new bold frontier, Uncharted waters one might say. I know shooting ships with dreads sounds preposterous, but this is a world of adapt or die. That adaptation, is not the return of drones for dreads / titans. They'll make it through just fine, you watch.


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Tappits
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#16 - 2015-06-01 11:23:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Tappits
Mecatama Mk2 wrote:
Dreadnaught, titan

- big signature resolution. low tracking, long range Drones
simple. if these shoot subcap it's hard. it's for VS long range cap- and supercap.


So just like the Dread/Titan guns then. i don't know what your trying to do other than give dreads more long range DPS.
Just seems a pointless wast of server % having to calk even more ****** drones.

P.S Let titans fit siege mods (but don't change anything else about them)