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Tengu solo fit for guristas 10/10 DED

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Sharpest Banana
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-05-29 10:53:19 UTC
So i ran the maze last night but i had to warp out at the end room after the station died, it raised some questions about my tank
I wasn't speed tanking anything due to like 6 webs, normally its fine, im just looking for the best way to edit my fit as i didn't really get alot of advice while i was putting it together.

Thanks! ~a friendly alt
[Tengu, Tengu]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Capacitor Flux Coil II

Pith B-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Field
Pith C-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir



The aim of the thruster rigs is to increase the max distance i can shoot missles, to balance out the low dps of HMLs with low range of HAMs, best of both worlds?

Cap is NOT stable, lasts ~32 mins, but usually i run a 3% cap implant which makes it stable
Kane Carnifex
Duty.
Brave Collective
#2 - 2015-05-29 11:10:39 UTC
1,8K Tank against Guristas, suits good and for 900 Mill solid fit.

If you fit a Medium Rocket fuel Cache I you will get 33,4 KM instead of 32,9.
With T2 rigs the increase is 500meters.

But I don´t have experience with the math regarding the 30 Sec 12K damage you will get every 30 Seconds.

How much does the Sig decrease the damage and how much the velo will.

Regarding experience the Tengu could tank it but i cant give you 100% guarantee.



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Thalos Elongus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2015-05-29 11:58:57 UTC
I dont fly a T3, but i do that mission in an ishtar.

You could consider dropping the AB and replacing it with an Invul II field?

Your AB wont be of "much use" anyway, since you will be webbed for "a while" once you enter the last room. The speed to outrun the citadel Torps is not that much at all.
Celise Katelo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-05-29 14:22:56 UTC
These fittings are nice TenguPiratePBlink

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Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-05-31 06:12:56 UTC
Tengu is the wrong choice for speed site clearing. You'll tank it fine. You'll kill the rats fine. What you won't d is: 1) clear it quickly, 2) be able to break the tank of the end-site station (provided there is a station). The Serpentis 10/10 station requires ~1000 DPS to break the tank, and it'll take 15+ minutes to do it.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#6 - 2015-05-31 18:51:10 UTC
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
Tengu is the wrong choice for speed site clearing. You'll tank it fine. You'll kill the rats fine. What you won't d is: 1) clear it quickly, 2) be able to break the tank of the end-site station (provided there is a station). The Serpentis 10/10 station requires ~1000 DPS to break the tank, and it'll take 15+ minutes to do it.


The Guristas 10/10 station never seems as tough as the Serpentis 10/10. I know people who have no issues breaking it with a HAM Tengu or Ishtar.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2015-05-31 19:28:17 UTC
zaqq has a video on youtube of him doing the site...
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Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-06-01 15:46:29 UTC
Guristas maze is easy to solo in ham tengu. Like the other dude said, drop the prop mod, put an extra invuln or even an extra c-type medium shield booster (yeah you can easily cap stable fit that if you try). You don't really need to increase your ham range. Just use javs on all the small stuff and slowboat towards the station. By the time you've chewed through the tackle frigs etc, you should be within rage ham range of the station, then...profit!
Hav0cide
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#9 - 2015-06-01 16:05:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Hav0cide
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
The Serpentis 10/10 station requires ~1000 DPS to break the tank, and it'll take 15+ minutes to do it.


You use to be able to burn outside of 50/60km and just nuke the serpentis station as it never repaired outside that range. Does this not happen anymore?

(Even the 8/10 serpentis station you could trick into not repairing)

Guristas 10/10 is easily soloable. Just gotta know what your doing. And if your tank is struggling...kill some of the DPS and resume station. Dont underestimate the final spawns.

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Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-06-01 17:32:33 UTC
Hav0cide wrote:
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
The Serpentis 10/10 station requires ~1000 DPS to break the tank, and it'll take 15+ minutes to do it.


You use to be able to burn outside of 50/60km and just nuke the serpentis station as it never repaired outside that range. Does this not happen anymore?

(Even the 8/10 serpentis station you could trick into not repairing)

Guristas 10/10 is easily soloable. Just gotta know what your doing. And if your tank is struggling...kill some of the DPS and resume station. Dont underestimate the final spawns.


The range trick still works in the 10/10, not in any of the other sites. Guristas 10/10 is certainly soloable, but a Tengu would not be the way to do that.
Annunaki soldier
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-06-01 19:32:42 UTC
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
Hav0cide wrote:
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
The Serpentis 10/10 station requires ~1000 DPS to break the tank, and it'll take 15+ minutes to do it.


You use to be able to burn outside of 50/60km and just nuke the serpentis station as it never repaired outside that range. Does this not happen anymore?

(Even the 8/10 serpentis station you could trick into not repairing)

Guristas 10/10 is easily soloable. Just gotta know what your doing. And if your tank is struggling...kill some of the DPS and resume station. Dont underestimate the final spawns.


The range trick still works in the 10/10, not in any of the other sites. Guristas 10/10 is certainly soloable, but a Tengu would not be the way to do that.



where can i laugh?

[Tengu,ded]
Ballistic Control System II
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System

Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Cap Recharger II
Gist X-Type Thermic Dissipation Field
Gist X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Gist X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II

Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

Scourge Precision Heavy Missile x2110
Scourge Fury Heavy Missile x7876


Go in its stable . Go to station while you killing frigs that web and scram first web then scram
Leave everything else. Take down tower go loot while you kill frigs tha web and scram. loot warp off . let em saying that this cant be soloed on tengu (Take at least 3% implants that will increase misilles dps. Mine has 710 total dps )

2 - 4 mazes drop will cover you the cost of the ship. You can easy make a travel fit + depot to travel safe.

Take care

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Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-06-01 19:50:25 UTC
Annunaki soldier wrote:
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
Hav0cide wrote:
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
The Serpentis 10/10 station requires ~1000 DPS to break the tank, and it'll take 15+ minutes to do it.


You use to be able to burn outside of 50/60km and just nuke the serpentis station as it never repaired outside that range. Does this not happen anymore?

(Even the 8/10 serpentis station you could trick into not repairing)

Guristas 10/10 is easily soloable. Just gotta know what your doing. And if your tank is struggling...kill some of the DPS and resume station. Dont underestimate the final spawns.


The range trick still works in the 10/10, not in any of the other sites. Guristas 10/10 is certainly soloable, but a Tengu would not be the way to do that.



where can i laugh?

[Tengu,ded]
Ballistic Control System II
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System

Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Cap Recharger II
Gist X-Type Thermic Dissipation Field
Gist X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Gist X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II

Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

Scourge Precision Heavy Missile x2110
Scourge Fury Heavy Missile x7876


Go in its stable . Go to station while you killing frigs that web and scram first web then scram
Leave everything else. Take down tower go loot while you kill frigs tha web and scram. loot warp off . let em saying that this cant be soloed on tengu (Take at least 3% implants that will increase misilles dps. Mine has 710 total dps )

2 - 4 mazes drop will cover you the cost of the ship. You can easy make a travel fit + depot to travel safe.

Take care


Nice 2B isk Tengu that does it slower than many other ships. Efficiency, baby... that's what it's all about. A less blingy Tengu is more than capable of surviving the site. That's not the issue. The real concern is getting things killed fast... a Tengu, no matter the fit, is not the way to do that.
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#13 - 2015-06-01 19:52:55 UTC  |  Edited by: RavenPaine
You certainly will NEVER need 32 minutes of cap. Id use a subsystem that will drop a low and give you 1 more midslot. Then add a target painter.

Me personally, I use Large boosters on my Tengus. Big boost is more important sometimes.
Annunaki soldier
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-06-02 14:14:08 UTC
first on my its cap stable. Second thats way faster than many ships (been doing on istars etc) cause you actually blitz it.

Second the ship costs 1b total as you see it. At least do a price check .

Faster ships than this ? please share the fit . and also talking about blitzing that means you are killing like 20-30 frigs total maybe less

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Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2015-06-04 12:44:40 UTC
Yeah no need for a 2 bil tengu at all for this plex. You can easily make a cap stable fit with 2 pithum c-type medium shield boosters as your only bling (and those are dirt cheap)