Player Features and Ideas Discussion

To begin with, I would like to mention that ships are my passion in EvE. It is the reason I play. It has been my motivation for many years. Moreover, I would say that an average player spends far more time while doing something with the ship, rather than anything else.

However, noticing the last few patches, I have come to notice that CCP puts effort into something that does not have wide use. Do not get me wrong, I really appreciate it and agree, at least to some degree that it is some kind of necessary evil that must be done. But really, how much of our play time do we sit outside of station, gazing at it, and doing nothing else? Not so much.

For me it is a simple Effort vs. Reward equation.

So, I gave it a thought, and decided to come up with something that would satisfy both CCP and Players at the same time.

For us, players, we need new ships, with possible new gameplay for them. Recently the Concord shuttle was issued, so this idea can be developed into a new Concord line of ships. I guess everyone would be very happy if these ships are added to the game.

For CCP, it would be only logical to suppose that they want to see as many active subscriptions as possible. They are already doing a good job at luring (sorry for wording) new players to the game, but afterwards, having played for some time, many of them leave because they do not see any clear goals to go on.

Only right choice would be to give them that goal to stay in EvE, as long as possible. Thus, we combine these, and get a neat idea:

Players get these ships (the longer they stay the bigger ones they get), as long as they keep their subscriptions active. That is, give these ships for the total time spent in EvE.

The break down could be similar to the one below:

For 3 months of active playing: 1 Run Concord Frigate BPC
For 6 months of active playing: 1 Run Concord Destroyer BPC
For 1 year of active playing: 1 Run Concord Cruiser BPC
For 2 years of active playing: 1 Run Concord BattleCruiser BPC
For 5 years of active playing: 1 Run Concord BattleShip BPC
For 10 years of active playing: 1 Run Concord Dreadnought / Carrier BPC
For 20 years of active playing: 1 Run Concord Titan / Supercarrier BPC

Now, these ships should not be labelled as “JUST ANOTHER SHIP”, they should be something special. Something that would really keep the desire of a player to keep the subscription alive. What could it be? Here is how I see them:

* Be very combat-oriented ships, that require more SP investment than their counterparts,
*When fully trained be as powerful as AT ships,
* Should require all four race skills to fly,
* Possibly create some special gameplay for them (Dscan invisibility, be able to use all kind of acceleration gates, etc)

Here is how a Concord Frigate could POSSIBLY look like:

Cladari Frigate Bonus: 7.5 % Shield and Armor Repair Bonus per Level
Gallente Frigate Bonus: 5% Drone tracking and Speed
Minmatar Frigate Bonus: 5% launcher and turret RoF
Amarr Frigate Bonus: 4% Shield and Armor Resistance Bonus per Level

Special bounus: …

Seems like too OP? Well I would definitely keep my account active to get this ship.

All in all, I believe that implementation of this feature would benefit both players and CCP, and definitely would be worth of all the time needed to create it.

Seems legit. +1

It would give me a reason to sub my account FO-EVA!

But for real. This is a fair idea and one that should be looked into more.

Better idea. Let's just remove all concord.

Even if it was kept to faction BPCs, this would still have a considerable effect on the game, in my opinion. Think about the large coalitions that have thousands of pilots, with multiple accounts, subbed for years, markets could possibly be flooded with ease. Infact they already are due to certain entities cashing out on faction BPCs gained from ratting, for example the huge change in faction BS price. Now imagine if you give these coalitions Concord ships, all of a sudden you have enormous fleets of completely broken ships (we've already seen what giant super fleets can do), with huge stockpiles to replace them with at any time (many alts). The only reason we don't see coalitions fielding Gnosis as one of their doctrines is due to the fact that although they're extremely versatile and have good agility, they don't actually stand out in any specific role other than gatecamping and solo/micro gang pvp (even then they have very niche uses).

Don't get me wrong, this is a good idea in my opinion, CCP already does something similar with the account rewards, but it's going to be difficult to do in a way that doesn't have too much of an impact on the game.

This seems very much like a trolling post...

So older players have a new and even more powerful way to stomp noobs?

If you want new players to stay, dont put a massive generation gap between them and older players that will NEVER be closed until both have been playing for over 20 years....

good gameplay for all > older player favouritism.



The only way id support this idea was if you were rewarded with unique skins or models for however longs subscription. Purely aesthetics. Nothing else.

Frequently suggested bit of trolling is trolling and frequently suggested.

Also, the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club.

Guys thank you for your feedback!

However, I can not say that it is great, as you seem to miss the point of it.

The idea was to let players have something uniqe, as a reward to keepig your subscription alive. Whether powerful or not, it should be decided in the future, of course considering the new players aswell.
Nor it is meant to be the new meta of current PvP balance. Hence only 1 run BPC that is given only ONCE, and you have to wait several months or even years to get it.

I would welcome some more constructive criticism as always.