Missions & Complexes

Which Cosmic Anomalies escalate to the 3/10 and 4/10 DED sites for the Angel Cartel and the Guristas Pirates?? Some of the information in the EVElopedia is unclear or not filled in.

Angel Hideaway and Angel Burrow sites haven't escalated to a DED Rated site for the 7 years I've been playing this game.

Years ago the Angel 1/10 (Minmatar Contracted Bio-Farm) and the Angel 2/10 (Angel Creo-Corp Mining) were static sites that respawned NPC's within 30 to 40 minutes after being cleared.

Because of that, I believe CCP had programmed the Angel Hideaway and Angel Burrow sites to spawn NPC Commanders much more often.

From my experience I've noticed that a Commander NPC will spawn at least once (usually more often) for every 10 sites completed.




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In my limited hi-sec ratting experience (with Guristas and Serpentis only) Hideaways escalated into DED 3 sites. I've cleared less than 30 of them (combined between the 2 pirates factions) and received 2 escalations. Both were DED 3.

This was 4 years ago, so things may have changed.

They are working as intended. If you are running the green combat anoms, the chances of getting an escalation are a lot lower than you would get if you had run a red combat anoms. I have seen instance where people have to run the green anoms 50-100 times before they get an escalation. A overhaul is not needed. CCP has already made running anoms and probe scanning so easy, that the market is already saturated with faction and deadspace items. For instance look at the prices of deadspace shield reppers, a medium a-type only cost 300mil now; whereas 4 years ago it would cost over 1bil for that module.

Bottomline: You're doing it wrong. The combat sites you have to scan down give better chance of getting an escalation. No overhaul needed.

The fact that an escalation can take you to low-sec is not a problem. It's working as intended. Escalations offer greater rewards theoretically for greater risk. Since most escalations - particularly anything below 7/10 - are not more challenging in terms of what the rats can do, the challenge must come from somewhere. If someone wants to chase down that escalation, be prepared to absorb both the risk of getting there. Nobody is forcing you to run it. I've let plenty of escalations lapse because I didn't want to take the time/risk of getting there. Even to this day, when a site I'm running in my alliance sov escalates into a neighboring null region partially inhabited by a few red corps, I just let it go. Again, not worth the risk of losing my blinged out ratting ship for what is likely a payoff worth a fraction of the value of my ship.

In addition, what kind of person runs a hi sec anom/combat site in a 400M ISK ship. Those sites are meant to be run successfully in T1 ships with low SP and unimpressive modules. If you own the kind of ship that costs 400M, you should not continue to run those sites because, as you said, why risk a ship like that for a tiny payoff.

Finally, sites escalating is governed by RNG. 5% chance of escalating doesn't mean you get 1 in 20 clears. It means you have a 1 in 20 chance to receive an escalation in any given clear. Pretty terrible odds. The fact that you're not getting them as often as you like means: 1) you're just like everyone else; 2) the game/math is working as intended.

This is what is wrong with exploration and combat sites, there is artificial barriers to where players can have fun and make a profit based on where CCP once though you should be.
This was taken down a little bit with the introduction to 1-4/10 combat sites appearing in low sec for newbro pirates but they offer no better reward than the same sites that are in high sec so the incentive to run them is lessened.
This runs true for all sites up to 5/10 as they can be done in high sec through Den escalations.

IMO reward should be based on where the site was completed, not site availability based on security status.

That said all sites need to have there content checked and updated as they were designed for ships that went away with tiericide.

What ships went away with tiericide? I haven't seen any ships removed from the game. They were balanced, but not taken out.

Something doesn't connect.

As far as I know everyone gets a warining popup when leaving highsec. So whoever disregards ist, does so at his own risk. Probably he returns as a better player. Maybe he enjoys it and stays. I think it's a good idea to make players taste every flavour of space.

Also: Not every gate is camped all the time.

The only ships that were affected by tiericide were the T3s. This was done at the request of the majority of whining hisec explorers.

Introducing hisec anomalies in lowsec was good move, new players don't have to stay in hisec till they learn enough SP to cross the border. It doesn't have to be done in sneaky "you have an escalation in lowsec - go there and lose some ships to lowsec dwellers". Who have fun here? Players in pve fits fighting rats getting jumped by non scannable recons? If they want to go there who stops them? Lowsec is few jumps from cosy 0.5 systems. Then again for whom dens escalate to DEDs 5? Even if new players go to lowsec they don't stand a chance with rats in there.


No need to, as far I see combat probes on d-scan I know my escalation just ended. I don't recall when I finished DED5 without being jumped and I don't fly in populated area. It's not a rant to nerf lowsec. This two (hi and low) are incomparable.


Shh, before they forbid HACs and pirates hull. In the name of sandbox ofc.