Player Features and Ideas Discussion

All of this is intended to generate a unique ID for each ship so it could be tracked until destroyed. It would be interesting to see how old some ships are, what they've killed, who they've passed from/to on the market, who stole them, etc.

All vehicles IRL aircraft, cars, boats, ship have unique identifiers. EVE should be no different.

It could be private information except on a billboard - when the ship is destroyed, you could publicly access what ships it has killed, who owned it etc. Think of the histories you could generate for a given ship. It would add content to the game!

It could be private information except on a killboard - when the ship is destroyed, you could publicly access what ships it has killed, who owned it etc. Think of the histories you could generate for a given ship. It would add content to the game!

What valuable intel are you giving away? When a ship dies, you can see exactly what its fit was, etc.

I think I indicated we could leave the builder information off except for the owner of the ship.

It would not appear on the KB when the ship was destroyed.

In real life, we have traceability, why should EVE have none?

Possibly there could be differences depending on if you built it in Null Sec/W-Space/Empire Space on what your ship has to show publicly?

But the builder also owned it?

So did everyone else on that list, why reveal them too?

Why should intel like this be obtainable with no effort whatsoever?

pssst...its a game.


In rl I don't own 5 cars. In eve I have I think 8 ships on hand. When in pvp mode 10+ real easy.

In rl not every 500K cars made by someone for one year is in one state. So 10K are in cali, another 10k are in NY.....long story short cali does not have a db storing all 500K for car x from maker in that car registry database. the DB load spread out put another way.

Vendor does record this but...they have legal and business obligations. Lets have car model x made in 2014 with an engineering defect. Vendor knows for recalls to only contact those vin owners. And when when a 2012 or 2015 owner is trying to get some free service...tell them no sir/maam, your car is okay and not on the list. legal obligations cover local governments liking the tracking it gives.

Now lets get back to eve. When was the last time you registered your ship at an office. States it be DMV, me I do a mix of Japanese things and on base facilitles overseas.

When was the last time in eve your ship had a defect to be recalled. I recall no vapor lock on my rokhs.


And well maybe its me but details like this mean crap really. I recall with great fondness many of my street racers. Hours of shade tree mechanic to tell stories about. Upgrades, repairs, ghetto body work when drifting went awry. But I can't tell you their vin or when they were made beyond a year. Latter about useless as well...by time they are done being worked on they were more aftermarket then stock. Insert motor and tranny swaps when blown too. So I had another years parts in my car for that one as well.

TL;DR....drive it like you stole it, damn the rest really .

Then you should be calling for the removal of Local and the non-consensual watchlist.

Instead of a VIN (SIN? since it is a ship, not a wheeled vehicle) number, I'd rather get 'vanity license plate frames' to stick on ships I've either put up for sale or for personal ship use. Since the details on ships are going up with the possibility of more appearance customization in the near and further out future, why not this left turn?

The supply setup to stamp those 'plate frames' or 'used ship store Corp #xxx bumper sticker' boggles my mind (perhaps only so many 'licenses' can be active at a time, let the throat cutting in Market or Awoxing begin for a mostly useless item!), and would be something I'd giggle over while picking it apart. On the upside, less number crunching for Devs and less for the hamsters to go on strike over.

Other than the text, a generic setup similar to designing a Corporation Logo would keep the frazzle low on the poor Devf that gets to crunch this into being.

And yes, these being removable by the owner (destroyed like removing rigs) to keep on the down low your alt suppliers.

Two wisdom pennies, user mileage will vary.

>Jeven

Explain this statement please.

Why should it be possible to find out someone's alts simply by looking at zkill?

How do you feel this intel, which would be freely available if all you need is a killmail or if you happen to buy a ship, adds content to the game? What kind of content? How is getting one KM or buying one ship considered work?

Do you not feel the metagame, which you dismiss as social engineering, is a part of the game?

None of it matters this will never be implemented.

I'm not saying that because I don't think it is a cool idea. But if you at all understand how the database is setup currently it is pretty easy to understand why it is highly unlikely we would ever see this idea implemented.