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Public Aid Deployment in Light of Recent Terrorist Attacks
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Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#141 - 2015-05-27 19:19:18 UTC
Jili Tonari wrote:
*Civilian," like, "Not military." Civilian capsuleers...


Considering as Capsuleers are themselves weapons technology, I would love to know how you know the difference between a military capsuleer and a civilian one. Many Capsuleers who still stay in their graduating school Corporation, and those who join other non-Militia but still Empire related corporations (like Native Freshfood), often find themselves taking combat missions on contract from Agents. They may fly a Drake one day out of Piak on task by the Caldari Navy to strike at a Gurista arms trade post one day, and then fly a Crane to Tama the next day. How do you say that specific Capsuleer is a Civilian?

Jili Tonari wrote:
...with civilian crews.


Citation needed.

Jili Tonari wrote:
People know how to read kill reports for themselves.

Show me on the kill report where it lists the intentions of the victim or the number or military/civilian status of their crew.

Jili Tonari wrote:
You the enemy of Matar.


I have nothing against the planet Matar. I don't think I've ever been there.

If you mean the Matari People, you're incorrect. They're quite lovely. Sebiestors specifically, mhhmhh.....Wait, where was I?

If you mean the Minmatar Republic....you're quite right! I am a declared enemy of the Republic and in general I do wish it harm. On a daily basis. Often with missiles. This has nothing to do with the genetics of the people on the receiving end of those missiles. And it has everything to do with a combination of ideological differences and Corporation orders to hunt TLF forces and their allies.
Jili Tonari
Doomheim
#142 - 2015-05-27 19:38:56 UTC
You can like triple dipped psycho-crazy ice cream for all I care.

(which you seem to do)

Your deeds speak louder than your words.

My truth is louder than both.

“Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search of our better selves.”
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#143 - 2015-05-27 19:48:24 UTC
I suppose we'll be seeing you come for your people or whatever in space then. I see you've rejoined the TLF. Best of luck.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#144 - 2015-05-27 19:57:15 UTC
Jili Tonari wrote:
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Jili Tonari wrote:
Which would be nice except those kill reports are full of Matari deaths. I see a LOT of civilian victims. Not just "Republic."


This is an interesting claim as kill reports are stored and generated for Capsuleer interactions. I would love to see where you see any kill reports of Civilian crafts. Not only does such aggression not take place, if it did it simply would not generate a kill report. Your claims are without support.



*Civilian," like, "Not military." Civilian capsuleers with civilian crews.

Really just...stop. People know how to read kill reports for themselves. Your excuses are worse than your make-believe "help."

You the enemy of Matar. All of you. So stop with the spin doctorin. Like I said at the start, you want to be friends and do nice things? Stop killing.

Or keep killing and be an enemy.

You don't get to be both.









Oh, hell, if you have an issue with her go hunt her down and pop her. Not that hard of a concept, luv. This back and forth is getting stale.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#145 - 2015-05-27 19:59:22 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:


If you mean the Matari People, you're incorrect. They're quite lovely. Sebiestors specifically, mhhmhh.....Wait, where was I?


Hi Blink

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Jev North
Doomheim
#146 - 2015-05-27 20:12:47 UTC
Jili Tonari wrote:
[...] You don't get to be both.

You know? What with this complete inability to separate the political, the military and the civilian, you'd make a pretty good Caldari.

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#147 - 2015-05-27 20:14:42 UTC
Jev North wrote:
Jili Tonari wrote:
[...] You don't get to be both.

You know? What with this complete inability to separate the political, the military and the civilian, you'd make a pretty good Caldari.


You're getting sand in your bed.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Jev North
Doomheim
#148 - 2015-05-27 20:16:17 UTC
For certain values of "good Caldari," granted.

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.
Jili Tonari
Doomheim
#149 - 2015-05-28 00:12:01 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
I suppose we'll be seeing you come for your people or whatever in space then. I see you've rejoined the TLF. Best of luck.



I might lose the first dozen or so pods, but I'll see you out there sometime.

“Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search of our better selves.”
Nethys Axion
Anshar Incorporated
#150 - 2015-05-28 00:24:33 UTC
Jili Tonari wrote:
Evi Polevhia wrote:
I suppose we'll be seeing you come for your people or whatever in space then. I see you've rejoined the TLF. Best of luck.



I might lose the first dozen or so pods, but I'll see you out there sometime.



All part of the learning process. Keep your head up, pilot.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#151 - 2015-05-28 01:11:29 UTC
Jili Tonari wrote:
Evi Polevhia wrote:
I suppose we'll be seeing you come for your people or whatever in space then. I see you've rejoined the TLF. Best of luck.



I might lose the first dozen or so pods, but I'll see you out there sometime.



That already makes you better than most on here. You're a credit to your people.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#152 - 2015-05-28 01:14:52 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Jili Tonari wrote:
Evi Polevhia wrote:
I suppose we'll be seeing you come for your people or whatever in space then. I see you've rejoined the TLF. Best of luck.



I might lose the first dozen or so pods, but I'll see you out there sometime.



That already makes you better than most on here. You're a credit to your people.


I'm not sure I'd go that far.

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums.  - CCP Falcon

I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#153 - 2015-05-28 02:20:28 UTC
Everbody wrote:
[flying insults between entities actively at war]

Nethys Axion wrote:
I suppose we'll be seeing you come for your people or whatever in space then. I see you've rejoined the TLF. Best of luck.

Jili Tonari wrote:
I might lose the first dozen or so pods, but I'll see you out there sometime.

Evi Polevhia wrote:
All part of the learning process. Keep your head up, pilot.

Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
That already makes you better than most on here. You're a credit to your people.


Capsuleer empathy is so weird. Neat, though.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#154 - 2015-05-28 02:23:55 UTC
Kalaratiri wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Jili Tonari wrote:
Evi Polevhia wrote:
I suppose we'll be seeing you come for your people or whatever in space then. I see you've rejoined the TLF. Best of luck.



I might lose the first dozen or so pods, but I'll see you out there sometime.



That already makes you better than most on here. You're a credit to your people.


I'm not sure I'd go that far.

It's better than the armchair activists.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#155 - 2015-05-28 03:46:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Look, far as I know, the TLF doesn't do squat but give out food vou...I mean LP for screwing with the Crusade out in the play...I mean warzone. It is not their purpose to help anyone! Read the sodding mission statement before mouthing off about the nobility of your organisation!

And people who don't do squat, does not lift a finger to do any damn thing can, as far as I am concerned, shut up and carry on and let the people who actually do squat continue to do it. You know who I'm referring to.

If you oppose the people who actually do squat, then by Pator, fit a damned frigate or something and do something about it instead of yapping about it all day.

All that power invested on you and you squander it by yapping about like a slaver hound leashed with a two inch rope to a kennel! (and you got me to use the Imperial system of measurement! I am going to be washing my mouth with moonshine for the rest of the week!)

Spirit-damned disgrace of a capsuleer you yappers are.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#156 - 2015-05-28 16:14:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyrel Toov
*drags in a big armchair, sits down, and lights a pipe.*

IT'S AN OUTRAGE I TELL YOU, AN OUTRAGE! THIS CANNOT BE ACCEPTED! SOMETHING MUST BE DONE IMMEDIATELY, I'M STARTING A PETITION! I'LL YELL INCOHERENTLY AT ANYTHING AND ANYONE ABOUT EVERYTHING! SOMEBODY HAS TO DO THIS THING, AND I'M STUCK TO MY ARMCHAIR! SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS ATROCITY AND I AM UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO ENFORCE IT! I DONT WANT BLOOD ON MY HANDS!

Begin "debate" phase:

-INSERT PERSON/GROUP HERE- -INSERT FAVORITE AD HOMINEM HERE- -INSERT ACCUSATIONS OF UNTRUTH HERE- REPEAT

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Jili Tonari
Doomheim
#157 - 2015-05-28 17:12:19 UTC
Tyrel Toov wrote:
Begin "debate" phase:

-INSERT PERSON/GROUP HERE- -INSERT FAVORITE AD HOMINEM HERE- -INSERT ACCUSATIONS OF UNTRUTH HERE- REPEAT


Down with this sort of thing!

(Do you still come for your people?)


And Elmund, I hear ya. I plan on continuing the convo with the help of some lead shot. Don't worry. Mamma Jili got this one.

Big smile

“Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search of our better selves.”
Nethys Axion
Anshar Incorporated
#158 - 2015-05-28 17:16:21 UTC
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Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#159 - 2015-05-28 17:16:50 UTC
Jili Tonari wrote:
(Do you still come for your people?)

(Maybe)

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Liam Antolliere
Doomheim
#160 - 2015-05-28 17:17:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Liam Antolliere
Yes Pilot Tonari,

We Gallente are here. However, we've chosen to abstain from involvement in this public circus given the divisive nature of the conversation.

It's up to the Republic and the SCC as to whether or not it will permit the transportation and delivering of these goods to those planets to begin with.

It is up to the residents of those planets that are being offered aid as to whether or not they'll accept it.

Our personal opinion of PYRE and its pilots is irrelevant and our opinion on the matter at hand is irrelevant as we have no official say or authority in the situation.

We've elected not to make this about us.

Thank you.

"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."