EVE General Discussion

The forums are busy with talks of why players join EVE online and quit EVE Online. It is my opinion that, the market is responsible for both. When players hear about an in-game market as robust as EVE's, their capitalistic juices start to flow. Soon they become impassioned with the idea of becoming wealthy or the richest player in EVE online. Surely this is what game developers intended... Or did they?

The first things new players concern themselves with in EVE Online is making ISK. I mean lets face it, what can you buy on the EVE market for 5,000 ISK? So what do new players think when they get sticker shock? My guess is: they'd better get to missions or mining to finally make a purchase. More successful EVE Online players see the flaws of this reasoning already.

New players, now in paper chase mode, are all about earning ISK. The more lofty their goals, the more selfish and isolated they become. Even in player corps, they keep this mental attitude of "must get rich". They stay to themselves questioning the the corp's operations, wondering: "how it is beneficial when I could just solo and not need to share any ISK with anyone?"

And this is where the Serenity server has bested us on Tranquility. Their player alliances dwarf ours, even with fewer subscribers. Their alliances are self sufficient, interacting very little with the market compared to Tranquility players. They realized the true strength of EVE Online. They truly understand the sandbox concept.

If you haven't gotten it by now, there is another approach to solving the new player problem of not being able to afford much. The new player needs only to find another skilled player who is capable of helping them create the products they are looking to buy. Perhaps if players came into the game looking to build rather than buy, they would avoid the isolated game play of solo mission and solo mining. Of course this is more effort than just going to the market and buying the product, but once the product is being made regularly, what is there to stop the player from profiting from their labor?

easy solution, buy a plex, fck building something everytime i wanted to do something

I do see it though. I am actively working to change a small part of that.

Different means in this case that Wester civilization citizen is more individualistic (concept of freedom, democracy, tolerance...) than asians and in particular chinese that are raised in completely other environment, where Confucius was the major philosopher, you had years of Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution, and everyone had to be in a party. It matters.

Is this one going to be as good as the 'don't train into battleships' thread?
I mean, because that one is pure gold.
Consider stopping while you are still pink in the middle.

Time is money.

The economy over there is destroyed and ISK is worthless because of the expansion of botting and other ISK making tolls that the server used.

They don't barter over there because they think it is a better system, they barter because a PLEX cost a few tens or hundreds of Billions to buy off the market and the rest of the economy is even worse.

The NS block is basically one giant organization with no conflict.

They are only concerned with getting more stuff and with having as little conflict as they can.

Even though we have alliances with more members than their server has people online?

yeah, we did our math again.

Commies gonna comm