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What is the best Covert Ops frigate?
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Jim Rickenbacher
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-12-28 16:26:26 UTC
What is the best covert ops frigate, NOT stealth bombers. Looking for something like "W>X>Y>Z" sort of answer. Thanks!
Rixiu
PonyTek
#2 - 2011-12-28 16:28:13 UTC
Cheetah>Rest>Helios
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#3 - 2011-12-28 16:28:14 UTC
They all have the same scan bonus.....so it's really personal preference
Liam Mirren
#4 - 2011-12-28 16:39:36 UTC
Anathema is the best allround as it can fit everything you'd want while still being nicely fast. People state the cheetah being "best" just because it's fast (and they like voicing silly memes without actual knowledge) but the truth is that it's a ***** to fit if you're actually going to use it properly. Buzzard is a tad slow and is hampered by warp range issues due to cap. Helios would be fine if it had a 3rd highslot.

-Cheetah for people who think that scouting is for AFK alts (or for folks who never actually flown one but want to voice their opinion anyway)
- Anathema for people who actually USE their covops
- the others don't matter

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Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-12-28 16:41:08 UTC
Liam Mirren wrote:
Anathema is the best allround as it can fit everything you'd want while still being nicely fast. People state the cheetah being "best" just because it's fast (and they like voicing silly memes without actual knowledge) but the truth is that it's a ***** to fit if you're actually going to use it properly. Buzzard is a tad slow and is hampered by warp range issues due to cap. Helios would be fine if it had a 3rd highslot.

-Cheetah for people who think that scouting is for AFK alts (or for folks who never actually flown one but want to voice their opinion anyway)
- Anathema for people who actually USE their covops
- the others don't matter


Actually, the cheetah is better since its more forgiving fitting wise, the grid on an Anathema is just.. tight.
Liam Mirren
#6 - 2011-12-28 16:43:43 UTC
Xolve wrote:
Liam Mirren wrote:
Anathema is the best allround as it can fit everything you'd want while still being nicely fast. People state the cheetah being "best" just because it's fast (and they like voicing silly memes without actual knowledge) but the truth is that it's a ***** to fit if you're actually going to use it properly. Buzzard is a tad slow and is hampered by warp range issues due to cap. Helios would be fine if it had a 3rd highslot.

-Cheetah for people who think that scouting is for AFK alts (or for folks who never actually flown one but want to voice their opinion anyway)
- Anathema for people who actually USE their covops
- the others don't matter


Actually, the cheetah is better since its more forgiving fitting wise, the grid on an Anathema is just.. tight.



CPU:
Cheetah 343.75
Anathema 350

PG:
Cheetah 18.75
Anathema 25

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Satav
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-12-28 16:55:43 UTC
Cheetah, Anathema, Buzzard, and Helios are good choices......... :P

I'm sorry, i couldn't resist. My point being that they all have the same scan bonus

so its really preference.

I use the anathema myself.

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Hauling Hal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2011-12-28 17:10:26 UTC
The answer depends on what you want to do with your covert frigate? I prefer the Buzzard.

High
covert cloak
expanded probe launcher (I use Sister's for low CPU)
offline salvager (or online if low CPU use mod in low)

Mid
MWD
scram
web
passive em resist
shield extender

Low
MAPC
1 x whatever (WCS, DC II, nanofibre, intertial stabilizer, etc)

Rigs
2 x T1 scanning rigs

2,600 EHP with reasonably balanced resists
(Fit 2 x MAPC and fit a Medium Shield Extender II for 4,300 EHP)
mwd when needed
probe launcher
scram
web
salvager, cos you never know when you'll find an unattended wreck. Got to love 75 million ISK from one T3 salvage.

What else do you need to do in a Covert frigate?

Liam Mirren wrote:

CPU:
Cheetah 343.75
Anathema 350

PG:
Cheetah 18.75
Anathema 25


Buzzard
CPU 375 <=
PG 18.75
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#9 - 2011-12-28 17:14:29 UTC
Tengu fitted with the proper sub-systems. ;)
Carl Thunderthise
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-12-28 17:21:47 UTC
Anathema (because it looks great) > Cheetah (because it has those cool green lights) > Helios > Buzzard (because it's made out of two wooden planks.)
Ralnik
Mutineers
#11 - 2011-12-28 18:10:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralnik
For PVP related uses.

Cheata overall because it does everything any of the others do, but it's much more agile & the fastest one cloaked. This means a lot if you are sneaking up on a target and trying to get there fast or get in very close with out getting uncloaked. Not to mention getting away from competent bubble camps.

The Anathema is probably the best tackle covt ops. You can fit a pretty nice little set up on it with an AB, scram & dual tracking disruptors that will let you get a quick tackle so your main PVP ships can land.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#12 - 2011-12-28 18:57:22 UTC
cheetah or hound

yes hound is a SB, but honestly if you think you're going to be able to gun someone down in a cov-ops you're crazy
its bad enough to try and tackle someone in a tankless frig yet alone trying to out gun them with 2 small turrets

but for recon, travel, blockade running and general cloaky games the Cheetah is best
Elessa Enaka
Doomheim
#13 - 2011-12-28 19:25:58 UTC
Alright, related question, which one is the best for AFK cloaking and pissing off botters by just sitting in system all day and not letting them bot their bots?

Devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been Eve is a great game if you can get past all of the asshats....
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#14 - 2011-12-28 19:28:46 UTC
Elessa Enaka wrote:
Alright, related question, which one is the best for AFK cloaking and pissing off botters by just sitting in system all day and not letting them bot their bots?


um... one with a cov-ops cloak?

it makes no difference if you are just sitting there, they can only see what you are in if you let them so you could be in a cloaky tengu for all they know and or fear
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#15 - 2011-12-28 19:30:23 UTC
Elessa Enaka wrote:
Alright, related question, which one is the best for AFK cloaking and pissing off botters by just sitting in system all day and not letting them bot their bots?


Avatar is a nice covops titan.

You could also try a cloaky charon.

...

Katrina Oniseki
Elessa Enaka
Doomheim
#16 - 2011-12-28 19:34:47 UTC
Ok, so what if while I was doing that I was also surveying moons for the coming Dread invasion and cleansing of the system?

Devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been Eve is a great game if you can get past all of the asshats....
1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2011-12-28 19:35:58 UTC
Anathema looks cool
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Panda McLegion
#18 - 2011-12-28 19:44:28 UTC
Jim Rickenbacher wrote:
What is the best covert ops frigate, NOT stealth bombers. Looking for something like "W>X>Y>Z" sort of answer. Thanks!


I can't believe no one has given you the answer you're looking for...

W>X>Y>Z

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Alticus C Bear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2011-12-28 19:46:50 UTC
Ralnik wrote:
For PVP related uses.

Cheata overall because it does everything any of the others do, but it's much more agile & the fastest one cloaked. This means a lot if you are sneaking up on a target and trying to get there fast or get in very close with out getting uncloaked. Not to mention getting away from competent bubble camps.

The Anathema is probably the best tackle covt ops. You can fit a pretty nice little set up on it with an AB, scram & dual tracking disruptors that will let you get a quick tackle so your main PVP ships can land.


Bit like this but without a web.

[Helios, PVP]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Co-Processor II
Internal Force Field Array I

1MN Afterburner II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption

Expanded Probe Launcher II, Combat Scanner Probe I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I


Hobgoblin II x1


Helios is also most agile I believe
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#20 - 2011-12-28 20:01:55 UTC
Republic Fleet Firetail with a 'Guise' cloak.

Untill you dscan and fly up to a POS with it anyway.

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