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dreadnaught roll change. Brutal weapon master.
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Mecatama Mk2
AMC.
Out of the Blue.
#1 - 2015-05-18 09:52:38 UTC
this is dradnaught roll change. more effective.

how to
dreadnaught skill bonus replace. capital turrat bonus replace every turret bonus.
example, revalation have every energy turret ROF, capititor usage bonus.

dreadnaguht self re-fit. only self. not for fleet/corp/alie.
no need carriar re-fit mid and low. more combat utility function.
(if need more extened cargo)

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FireFrenzy
Cynosural Samurai
#2 - 2015-05-18 11:44:26 UTC
wut are you even suggesting?
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2015-05-18 12:32:23 UTC
Mecatama Mk2 wrote:
this is dradnaught roll change. more effective.

how to
dreadnaught skill bonus replace. capital turrat bonus replace every turret bonus.
example, revalation have every energy turret ROF, capititor usage bonus.

dreadnaguht self re-fit. only self. not for fleet/corp/alie.
no need carriar re-fit mid and low. more combat utility function.
(if need more extened cargo)


Zis iz not mai sunwich.

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2015-05-18 12:46:43 UTC
I THINK what he's saying is that the dread skill bonus should apply to all turret sizes, not just capital ones.

And that dreads should be able to refit themselves wherever and whenever they want.



To which I will say:

Why?
afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-05-18 13:37:09 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
I THINK what he's saying is that the dread skill bonus should apply to all turret sizes, not just capital ones.

And that dreads should be able to refit themselves wherever and whenever they want.



To which I will say:

Why?


Because he wants an omfgwtfbbqsolopwnmobile that can kill ANYTHING?
Feledain
Elmsfeuer
#6 - 2015-05-18 15:22:15 UTC
Why not just give capital turrets aoe on impact with 10k radius or something.

and kittens, pink kittens
and when you fire they purr
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-05-18 15:59:35 UTC
afkalt wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
I THINK what he's saying is that the dread skill bonus should apply to all turret sizes, not just capital ones.

And that dreads should be able to refit themselves wherever and whenever they want.



To which I will say:

Why?


Because he wants an omfgwtfbbqsolopwnmobile that can kill ANYTHING?


If it gets 7 launcher out of 8 high slots and siege affecting all missile type, I can see a RLML Phoenix killing things.
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#8 - 2015-05-18 16:11:50 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
afkalt wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
I THINK what he's saying is that the dread skill bonus should apply to all turret sizes, not just capital ones.

And that dreads should be able to refit themselves wherever and whenever they want.



To which I will say:

Why?


Because he wants an omfgwtfbbqsolopwnmobile that can kill ANYTHING?


If it gets 7 launcher out of 8 high slots and siege affecting all missile type, I can see a RLML Phoenix killing things.


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joecuster
Anime Masters
#9 - 2015-05-18 19:22:10 UTC
TFW people who have never flown dreads or interacted with them in any way shape or form are trying to suggest changes to them. Go back to WoW if you want easy mode dreads. 0/10
Tusker Crazinski
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2015-05-18 20:11:37 UTC
afkalt wrote:


Because he wants an omfgwtfbbqsolopwnmobile that can kill ANYTHING?


to be perfectly fair dreadnoughts are very slow.

larger guns will have tracking issues and smaller guns will have projection issues. Honestly I wish there was a cap placed between dreads and Battleships bonused for large guns.

The Phoenix however would be an issue, because missiles have none of these problems.
Haatakan Reppola
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-05-19 09:21:53 UTC
Tusker Crazinski wrote:
afkalt wrote:


Because he wants an omfgwtfbbqsolopwnmobile that can kill ANYTHING?


to be perfectly fair dreadnoughts are very slow.

larger guns will have tracking issues and smaller guns will have projection issues. Honestly I wish there was a cap placed between dreads and Battleships bonused for large guns.

The Phoenix however would be an issue, because missiles have none of these problems.


Have you ever used missiles?
Larger missiles do alot less dps on smaller targets, same with guns and tracking (lets not get into tracking vs missile dmg, just accept that missiles also have prblems with smaller targets)
Smaller missiles also have less range, equal guns have optimal+falloff at around same range as missiles with max range ammo

Diffrent problems, nobody is saying that missiles are OP atm. Most posts about changing missile application is about boosting them
afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2015-05-19 10:22:08 UTC
Tusker Crazinski wrote:
afkalt wrote:


Because he wants an omfgwtfbbqsolopwnmobile that can kill ANYTHING?


to be perfectly fair dreadnoughts are very slow.

larger guns will have tracking issues and smaller guns will have projection issues. Honestly I wish there was a cap placed between dreads and Battleships bonused for large guns.

The Phoenix however would be an issue, because missiles have none of these problems.



It'd be a problem if they ALSO didnt want to allow refitting on the fly. Little stuff under guns? Hello webs and small turrets. Kiting? HAI THAR BIG TURRETS.
Mecatama Mk2
AMC.
Out of the Blue.
#13 - 2015-05-20 02:05:27 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
I THINK what he's saying is that the dread skill bonus should apply to all turret sizes, not just capital ones.

And that dreads should be able to refit themselves wherever and whenever they want.



To which I will say:

Why?


so, think duty.
carriar is rat hunt, repair, escort, attack, defence, ship mainternesce(re-fit). and others.
dreadnaught is bashing, bashing, bashing and sucide bashing

dreadnaught have more utililty. is it balance crush? my answer is nope.

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#14 - 2015-05-20 05:21:39 UTC
might be too OP if you can instantly swap from mining lasers to gatling pulse to kill the rats

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2015-05-20 10:26:14 UTC
Mecatama Mk2 wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
I THINK what he's saying is that the dread skill bonus should apply to all turret sizes, not just capital ones.

And that dreads should be able to refit themselves wherever and whenever they want.



To which I will say:

Why?


so, think duty.
carriar is rat hunt, repair, escort, attack, defence, ship mainternesce(re-fit). and others.
dreadnaught is bashing, bashing, bashing and sucide bashing

dreadnaught have more utililty. is it balance crush? my answer is nope.



Why do you think my nag should be able to do thousands of DPS with perfect tracking against any target?
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#16 - 2015-05-20 14:48:38 UTC
Role
Mecatama Mk2
AMC.
Out of the Blue.
#17 - 2015-05-26 06:51:51 UTC
Harrison Tato wrote:
Role

whats role?

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FireFrenzy
Cynosural Samurai
#18 - 2015-05-26 08:18:11 UTC
Blasting giant holes in stationary things... Or almost stationary things...
Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#19 - 2015-05-26 11:11:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Iroquoiss Pliskin
Brutal Weapon Master. Lol

Surely is balanced. Roll Could be a troll thread, however the previous one with capitals having three buttn T3D modez wasn't.

One can never know.

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