Player Features and Ideas Discussion

As the title says. Mission bonuses need an overhaul, because they are pretty much pointless right now. For example my current one provides 939 000 ISK if I do it in a X time. And that time is huge. Some missions have a bonus timer of 6 hours. What's the point of that?

The bonus should be made more challenging and maybe not always requiring to complete the mission in a certain amount of time. Some missions are blitz-able, while others require you to kill everything, so the bonus system should rely on different objectives.

Burner missions are nice addition to the PvE content, but I think the old missions need to be looked into as well.

Any other ideas are appreciated.

Enemies Abound 5 of 5: you have 6 waves spawning per 4 minutes. The bonus objectives could be to destroy each wave before the next one spawns.

I know mission specific bonus requires more effort and time from CCP and considering the big changes (sov and structures) incoming we probably won't see this happening any time soon, but I am still giving it as an idea for the near future.

The way missions are handled should change entirely. Let them drive conflict. Rather than spawn missions for each player, spawn x missions per solar system, with various agents accepting completion. We should be racing for damsels. The ISK of bounties should be incedental to the rewards of turning in a mission- by no means a foregone conclusion with dozens of runners and only so many rewards to turn in.

Sure, many would just show up to shoot rats and collect bounties, but faction and loyalty points only go to those that bring home the bacon.

This would likely involve a change to missions.... For instance things like Worlds Collide or many of the extravaganza types would be active battlesites, with your ship coming in to support one side or the other. Each new capsuleer could spawn New waves of npc reinforcements, with the gates to the next zone only being accesable through dropped keys, hacking or the destruction of all ships- and it relocks when someone new zones in. You grab the objective, take it to an appropriate agent, and get rewarded. Mission objectives can be looted off player wrecks, supporting piracy and PVP to some extent.

This makes missions scale with larger groups, rewards more diverse play and fleet composition, and give PVE players a reason to up their game beyond the ability to tank 800dps on one resist profile forever.

Hmm, CCP could save alot of work and have the players create the content for new/upgraded missions. There would also be players doing the testing and 'break them in'. Would be good for content and for participation in getting this stuff available to everyone. And there is already a forum for the threads of comments...

My idea is about the bonuses, not the mission as a whole. How will new players fit into burner missions by your logic? I am not saying make them harder, but make bonuses harder to complete and better rewarding. Everything else is being revamped, so why not agent missions too? This game is 12 years old, things need to change to keep the interest in them.

Out of 30-60 million ISK per level 4 mission for example, 1-2 mil on top from the bonus ain't something new players are going to miss. However, once they get good enough to compete for the bonus objectives, they should be better rewarded than it is now.

the blockade's final timer driven spawn being close to 10m disagrees with you.

The timer on the bonus section is actually driven by a running average for that mission of the completion time from accepting that mission.

Cool idea... but wasted development time.

That said, doing things like this would simply lead to more mission cherry-picking. It would take exactly 3 days for people to identify the missions with the cherry bonus objectives and just decline missions until they get those. Given that each empire's hi sec has a particular area where there are 4-7 L4 agents in a tight area, it would simply exacerbate the problem. I was doing this with the old, crappy bonuses. If I was still in hi sec, I'd do this even more now.

CCP needs to fix LP payout from burner missions, and the amount rates those missions appear.
This is the real issue , especially for nullsec.