Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Would be a fun thing for pirates to kill and loot etc. just npc's that are not pirate targets.

All I'm thinking of is baiting you to warp to a structure where you get blap'd by a circadian BS...

For some reason, the title made me think of that 'Joker Semi-truck' in Maximum Overdrive.

Because it's a game that some people like to play. There is a wider universe than just the pc's and they all need stuff too. There should be regular interbus convoys, various Corp shipments, etc... That people playing pirate should be able to hunt. On the flipside there should be similar industry functionality for the criminal factions that need protection- they all have shipyards, drug production, etc.. that more 'noble' minded players could disrupt. Done well the stations of the individual factions could gain and lose services, have fluxuating surcharges for the use of market brokers.

Imagine the havoc in Jita if players flying in support of the Guristas were to prey on NPC shipping so much that everything being bought and sold in those stations was losing 50% value.

It would be a way to lose ISK out of the world, possibly spur the use of PC run market centers, and drive a new kind of conflict in the game where players begin taking on escort and courier mission, or running patrols in the areas of space where these haulers must pass and fighting other players intent upon destroying those haulers.

Manipulatable, sure... But if those haulers are profitable to hit then you will see people trying it despite the economic ramifications of systems no longer being viable as grade hubs.

It was nice of him to put some flesh on the skeletal idea you posted. I like the idea of player actions influencing NPC market taxes and fees.

But surely if you're playing pirate, you have no interest in killing NPCs?

Killing rats isn't fun. killing players is fun. Less time spent killing rats and more time spent killing players means more time spent actually having fun...

Exactly.

For a great many PvE players, one of the biggest reasons to avoid PvP is the lack of a solid reason to bother with the hassle. This isn't Space Battlefield, there are consequences to that loss, and very little reward for winning.

Not everyone has the kind of mindset that requires ruining someone else's time playing to have fun in the game. Another consideration is the difficulty of supporting a PvP playstyle on the income of a PvP playstyle--- if you could take that same PvP ship and hit NPC shipping for enough profit to keep you in hulls and ammo, and at the same time encourage others to come out and stop you in actual combat capable ships, then the game gets a bit more fun for everyone.