EVE General Discussion

Do you see the little blue flag that says "DEV" on it when you see this thread in the list of topics? That means a dev has replied to it.

You are right. Because of that we are discussing a WiS that is more than just some walkiing around and emoting. Social interaction is great and I would like that but in the end there has to be more to WiS. As I already said (but you don't seem to read): WiS and FiS can benefit and add to each other, if done right.
But I really appreciate that you finally admit that creation is part of the game . Without creation there is nothing to blow up, without blowing up there is no need of creation, without social interaction the game would be a dead shell. You Goons should know better because you are very involved with social interaction .


I think you Goons are the most interesting roleplayers around here. Trolling the whole community most of the time is a really great achievement . You are great at roleplaying jerks and morons (no offense meant at all, I'm sure most you are are cool guys). I think EVE would be boring without you.

That is your part in the whole social interaction thingy.

A game like EVE is full of people with more or less real or roleplayed emotions. As a (harsh) sandbox EVE is more or less dependend on the social interaction between its players. Offending the wrong people can cause a war in New Eden, having the right friends can get you in a position of power or give you protection etc. pp. EVE is social interaction at its essence. The spaceships are just some "nerdy" visualisation of that (a cool one, I might add ).
The point I'm trying to make is this: anything that can help to make social interaction more interesting, more engaging and more meaningful adds to the overall experiance that is EVE. Can WiS actually achieve that? I believe so. It has a good chance to do so. And it could do far more than just add to the social interaction.

I know that now isn't the time to put a majority of CCP devs back to WiS/WoD, they are far better off doing one or two great expansions and polish EVE how it should have been done years ago. Even if many of us WiS supporters would like to have all those nice establishments and features by tomorrow, we have to accept the fact that at the moment it just isn't possible. There are far more urgent things that have to be polished, iterated and revamped. It would be great if WiS could have a future at all, that's all I am asking for. But I'm also aware that it is propably better for CCP to sweep WiS under the carpet for the moment with all those bitter vets lurking around every corner .

So, let's be reasonable. Hopefully we will get some new infos about the future of WiS during the next FanFest or (more likely) later the coming year. I'm fine with that so far and let's be honest: WiS isn't the thing that keeps us playing EVE, is it?


I think I have said everything I have to say about that. Have fun posting .

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One might use the old moderator shoehorn tactic.

That is, cause so many EULA violations that the thread has to be cleaned up, and thus forces someone on staff to acknowledge its existence. They would be scared to leave it at that, though, because simply copy/pasting a response on a thread that has obviously garnered so much attention and negativity only ends up multiplying that negativity and customer discontent -- something CCP does not want right now.

One must be careful though -- just enough EULA violating and the thread is cleaned up with the desired result. Too much, and they will just lock it and everyone would be forced to start over again, thus losing all momentum previously gained.


Of course, I, Kuronaga, would never condone such an underhanded, anarchy inspiring tactic. In fact, anyone who did would most certainly be suspended -- and deservedly so! I mean really, who would go out of there way to make more work for the good moderators of this forum?

That said, if someone actually did attempt this I would laugh my ass off.

All of you people thinking this is a huge thread are silly. Here is a thread that reached over 400 pages filled with people who didn't want any more WiS nonsense and wanted CCP to work on actual Eve content. Sadly the author of the thread is no longer with CCP because her job was cut when the company lost a ton of money by focusing on WiS.

They had to fire people because they hired too many damn people to begin with. That was entirely their own fault.

If WoD was never a factor at all, WiS would have had a beefy staff and FiS would have had a beefy staff. They wouldn't have had to overhire and would be doing more cool stuff to generate actual income instead of theory bucks. Dust would be exactly the same since its being made by the chinese and they get paid like 5 cents an hour (this is why they didnt fire anyone from that team). Everything would be getting done correctly.

WoD is most likely vaporware and even if it does launch in 10 years it will probably die a horrible, nonprofitable death like age of conan. When Dust is launched they will be able to re-locate many of the chinese devs to WiS, and if they are intelligent enough to cancel sparkly vampires online we will get a lot of those devs too.


So it's not entirely hopeless, but more of waiting game for them to realize what everyone else already has.

This thread and the raging over incarna wasnt about WiS being a bad thing in general and you know that very well.

It was about bad communication, broken promises, hellish performance and a NeX store that was WAY to expansive. Btw yep it still is WAY too expansive, but they gave away sooo MUCH free Aurum that you barely notice it.

So CCP, do something with WiS. Make it the cool feature everyone was waiting for. And get us some new clothes, damn it! :)

The Nex store, aurum and microtransactions are all tied to WiS. Over 400 pages of an almost completely unified playerbase sent the message that we don't want real Eve content to take a back seat to roleplaying nonsense. This thread, like I have said before, is a small handful of misguided people and their alts arguing for CCP to go back to destroying their game and they only account for a fraction of the posts in a 90 page thread.

The community has spoken and CCP has responded. Stop trying to reverse the positive direction the game is currently taking.

Most people want WiS, why would you be against an expansion to the EVE universe? You'd have to be a goon attempting to troll while simultaneously being counter productive or something equally as bland and stupid. The implementation of Incarna was horrible, I quit for a while because of it, among other things. I didn't shoot a statue like some sort of dunce though.

WiS will be great and I hope they come out with it sooner rather than later, we've been waiting a long time.

Consider this a bump.

No matter how many times you say this it's never going to be true.